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The Good Reverend Roger

#75
December 09, 2009, 06:08:24 PM
Quote from: Iason Ouabache on December 09, 2009, 05:59:48 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 09, 2009, 04:50:45 PM

THEY GO 90 MILES AN HOUR TO THE CITY LIMIT SIGN PUT THE PEDAL TO THE METAL BEFORE THEY CHANGE THEIR MIND.
I never thought I would see the day when we'd have a Hal Ketchum reference here.  Well done, Roger.

Woot!  I was betting someone would catch that.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cait M. R.

#76
December 10, 2009, 04:51:36 PM
Semi-re-jacking fread.

LMNO, I think "paranormal" should apply to numbers 1 and 2 of your list, because both of those sort of work together (being different degrees of the same idea) and I'm one of those freakish people who thinks everything can be explained with enough science, even people who take Glenn Beck seriously.

LMNO

#77
December 10, 2009, 04:57:09 PM
Science cannot answer things which are not scientific.

The Good Reverend Roger

#78
December 10, 2009, 05:04:30 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 10, 2009, 04:57:09 PM
Science cannot answer things which are not scientific.

What's not scientific?  The universe is composed of "stuff".  Stuff can be observed.  And it better NOT FUCKING CHANGE when we observe it, or I'm filing a complaint.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Cait M. R.

#79
December 10, 2009, 05:16:56 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 10, 2009, 04:57:09 PM
Science cannot answer things which are not scientific.

You sure? I heard of this scientific field of study called abnormal psychology. I think that covers everything that isn't already covered by other science.

Kai

#80
December 10, 2009, 05:28:40 PM
Quote from: Cait M. R. on December 10, 2009, 05:16:56 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 10, 2009, 04:57:09 PM
Science cannot answer things which are not scientific.

You sure? I heard of this scientific field of study called abnormal psychology. I think that covers everything that isn't already covered by other science.

I think what he means (and I may very well be wrong) is that science can't assess metaphysical questions because A) science relies on physical evidence, ie that which can be detected by our (augmented) senses B)  science requires repeatable repeatable evidence and C) only falsifiable hypotheses are scientifically meaningful.
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Cait M. R.

#81
December 10, 2009, 05:32:32 PM
Quote from: Kai on December 10, 2009, 05:28:40 PM
Quote from: Cait M. R. on December 10, 2009, 05:16:56 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 10, 2009, 04:57:09 PM
Science cannot answer things which are not scientific.

You sure? I heard of this scientific field of study called abnormal psychology. I think that covers everything that isn't already covered by other science.

I think what he means (and I may very well be wrong) is that science can't assess metaphysical questions because A) science relies on physical evidence, ie that which can be detected by our (augmented) senses B)  science requires repeatable repeatable evidence and C) only falsifiable hypotheses are scientifically meaningful.

There's this word that concisely sums up my opinion of metaphysics.

"Sharkdongs."

The Good Reverend Roger

#82
December 10, 2009, 05:33:48 PM
Quote from: Kai on December 10, 2009, 05:28:40 PM
Quote from: Cait M. R. on December 10, 2009, 05:16:56 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 10, 2009, 04:57:09 PM
Science cannot answer things which are not scientific.

You sure? I heard of this scientific field of study called abnormal psychology. I think that covers everything that isn't already covered by other science.

I think what he means (and I may very well be wrong) is that science can't assess metaphysical questions because A) science relies on physical evidence, ie that which can be detected by our (augmented) senses B)  science requires repeatable repeatable evidence and C) only falsifiable hypotheses are scientifically meaningful.

If it's not falsifiable, it's not a hypothesis, it's religion.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#83
December 10, 2009, 05:58:32 PM
Can you scientifically prove "green is pretty"?

Cait M. R.

#84
December 10, 2009, 06:00:28 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 10, 2009, 05:58:32 PM
Can you scientifically prove "green is pretty"?

No, but you can scientifically prove that anyone who tries to put that forth as a fact instead of an opinion is a dumbass.

The Good Reverend Roger

#85
December 10, 2009, 06:01:01 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 10, 2009, 05:58:32 PM
Can you scientifically prove "green is pretty"?

Yep.  Jam probes into people's pleasure centers, and then show them different colors.

It's hard on the test subjects, of course, but we do this shit for science.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#86
December 10, 2009, 06:01:44 PM

Cait M. R.

#87
December 10, 2009, 06:04:24 PM
The second part is important because it leads to a scientific proof that no colors are pretty.

The Good Reverend Roger

#88
December 10, 2009, 06:05:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 10, 2009, 06:01:01 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 10, 2009, 05:58:32 PM
Can you scientifically prove "green is pretty"?

Yep.  Jam probes into people's pleasure centers, and then show them different colors.

It's hard on the test subjects, of course, but we do this shit for science.

QED, my ass.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

P3nT4gR4m

#89
December 10, 2009, 06:06:42 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 10, 2009, 06:01:01 PM
Quote from: LMNO on December 10, 2009, 05:58:32 PM
Can you scientifically prove "green is pretty"?

Yep.  Jam probes into people's pleasure centers, and then show them different colors.

It's hard on the test subjects, of course, but we do this shit for science.

You could also set out a waiting room in identical chairs, painted different colours and see which ones most people sat in but I like your method better.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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