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Started by Lies, January 25, 2010, 08:33:06 AM

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Lysergic on January 26, 2010, 12:29:09 AM

I was wondering what this "Kruger/Dunning" thing was you mentioned (It's Dunning–Kruger on wiki btw),

Oh, well, then, never mind.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Nast

While we'd like to think that this was probably just some adorable mischief on the part of the two girls, there's just as likely some very sad motivation behind it.
"If I owned Goodwill, no charity worker would feel safe.  I would sit in my office behind a massive pile of cocaine, racking my pistol's slide every time the cleaning lady came near.  Auditors, I'd just shoot."

Captain Utopia

Quote from: Triple Zero on January 25, 2010, 11:13:34 PM
i'm not sure! all I know is that I have gotten in trouble for defending people who I thought were being facetious but then turned out to be shitheads after all. this was long ago and I learned to trust Roger's judgement in these cases the hard way :-)

i have posted on other international boards, but here I noticed for the first time. so it could also be a european thing. or a non-american thing.
I think it's a cultural thing, at least now that I've been away from the UK for a while, talking with people from the UK I've been in situations where I've been taken aback twice - first a recoil in horror at the facetious statement deadpanned, and then again when I realise that I would have just rolled with it as a normal thing a few years ago.  It's weird noticing that you've been un-desensitised like that.

At first it pissed me off that being in such an annoyingly politically correct culture had such a dramatic shift in my sense of humour, but lately being facetious just seems like a slightly more sophisticated form of tourettes syndrome.

Reginald Ret

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2010, 02:01:35 AM
Quote from: Regret on January 25, 2010, 11:22:20 PM

Anyway my point was that the public shool system is so bad, even going to prison is better.
With this i don't mean that prison actually is better.
Prison is badwrong, especially in the US.
Not as fun now :(

Am i clear now?
I've gotten a bit uncertain now.

Um, so we should put all of our kids in prison?

TGRR,
Hyperbole meter is broke.
Sounds like a symptom of the strange times: when there is no normal, there is no hyperbole.
Lord Byron: "Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves."

Nigel saying the wisest words ever uttered: "It's just a suffix."

"The worst forum ever" "The most mediocre forum on the internet" "The dumbest forum on the internet" "The most retarded forum on the internet" "The lamest forum on the internet" "The coolest forum on the internet"

Triple Zero

Quote from: FP on January 26, 2010, 06:49:57 AMI think it's a cultural thing, at least now that I've been away from the UK for a while, talking with people from the UK I've been in situations where I've been taken aback twice - first a recoil in horror at the facetious statement deadpanned, and then again when I realise that I would have just rolled with it as a normal thing a few years ago.  It's weird noticing that you've been un-desensitised like that.

At first it pissed me off that being in such an annoyingly politically correct culture had such a dramatic shift in my sense of humour, but lately being facetious just seems like a slightly more sophisticated form of tourettes syndrome.

interacting a lot with the people on this forum, I had a similar experience. I wouldnt discredit it as a slightly more sophisticated form of tourettes, though. it's just different and goes both ways. i'm for example sometimes taken aback by the sheer amount of "fucking" one can insert into a sentence without appearing entirely whitehot and irrational with anger. if someone were to write a Dutch sentence with a same amount of swearing in it, people would in most probability tell the person to calm down first, before even considering what they actually tried to say. I personally often experience this when people start with "goddamnit" or [to a lesser extent] "jesus", as most people I meet are not christian, this is a tell-tale sign that they're not really paying much attention anymore to the words coming out of their mouths.

it is useful though. because by paying attention to this thing, also IRL I can now better judge whether someone is making a [sometimes tasteless] facetious racist / pedo / nigger / rape joke, or whether behind the veil of humour is actually hiding something much more ugly than that. though it usually isn't and people are often honestly surprised when you question their motivations behind what they thought of nothing more than a random remark.

additionally, in Dutch you have one more angle on this. we like to curse with diseases. most of them are "old" diseases such as TBC or Cholera or the black plague. Except for Cancer. Which means sometimes you hit a sensitive spot if you use that curse near someone who recently lost a loved one to cancer. Which is why I'm a bit more hesitant to use that disease as a curse.
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

Reginald Ret

This entire experience made me think of a motto my friends and i yell out when we are in a certain mood.

Anale sex (pause) met dooie dieren!
that's anal sex wih dead animals.
its mostly poking fun at those who decide to limit their verbal and mental range by outlawing certain thoughts/words/word combinations.


oh and about cursing with cancer, the dutch word for cancer is also a verb for bitching.
ik kanker        i bitch
hij kankert     he bitches
wij kankeren   we be bitchin'

so basically
kankerdekanker kankerende kankerzooi!
should be translated as
bitch bitch curse hurk puke cursed stuff!
Lord Byron: "Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves."

Nigel saying the wisest words ever uttered: "It's just a suffix."

"The worst forum ever" "The most mediocre forum on the internet" "The dumbest forum on the internet" "The most retarded forum on the internet" "The lamest forum on the internet" "The coolest forum on the internet"

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Regret on January 26, 2010, 10:40:12 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2010, 02:01:35 AM
Quote from: Regret on January 25, 2010, 11:22:20 PM

Anyway my point was that the public shool system is so bad, even going to prison is better.
With this i don't mean that prison actually is better.
Prison is badwrong, especially in the US.
Not as fun now :(

Am i clear now?
I've gotten a bit uncertain now.

Um, so we should put all of our kids in prison?

TGRR,
Hyperbole meter is broke.
Sounds like a symptom of the strange times: when there is no normal, there is no hyperbole.

Is that a "yes"?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Triple Zero

Quote from: Regret on January 25, 2010, 11:22:20 PM
With this i don't mean that prison actually is better.
Prison is badwrong, especially in the US.

(hint)
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

Jenne

Eh, there IS a normal, still, though, and I'm glad TGRR was able to point it out.  Acceptance of prison being better or just as good as public school education is just the begining of the end, imho.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Triple Zero on January 26, 2010, 05:36:51 PM
Quote from: Regret on January 25, 2010, 11:22:20 PM
With this i don't mean that prison actually is better.
Prison is badwrong, especially in the US.

(hint)

Sir, you are interfering with a lawful extraction of The Piss.  Please stand aside.  We are professionals.

  :hammer:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Triple Zero

Many apologies, please to continue forced urinal tract expulsion.
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

Reginald Ret

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2010, 02:25:58 PM
Quote from: Regret on January 26, 2010, 10:40:12 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 26, 2010, 02:01:35 AM
Quote from: Regret on January 25, 2010, 11:22:20 PM

Anyway my point was that the public shool system is so bad, even going to prison is better.
With this i don't mean that prison actually is better.
Prison is badwrong, especially in the US.
Not as fun now :(

Am i clear now?
I've gotten a bit uncertain now.

Um, so we should put all of our kids in prison?

TGRR,
Hyperbole meter is broke.
Sounds like a symptom of the strange times: when there is no normal, there is no hyperbole.

Is that a "yes"?
Well you need to do some math here, is the improved education in prison worth the extra cost?

prison cost:
$22,650 per prisoner per year
school cost:
$9866 per student per year

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/National_average_cost_per_student_in_public_school
I can't decide this for you, it's American prisons and American children.
I am sure you have more information about those.
Lord Byron: "Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves."

Nigel saying the wisest words ever uttered: "It's just a suffix."

"The worst forum ever" "The most mediocre forum on the internet" "The dumbest forum on the internet" "The most retarded forum on the internet" "The lamest forum on the internet" "The coolest forum on the internet"

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Triple Zero on January 26, 2010, 05:57:04 PM
Many apologies, please to continue forced urinal tract expulsion.

Apparently I don't have to.   :lol:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

the last yatto

warren might be a better parent then those girls ever had.
my guess the only way they can get caught now
is if someones mother finds a huge amount of money in their child's backpack
AND DOESNT KEEP IT
Look, asshole:  Your 'incomprehensible' act, your word-salad, your pinealism...It BORES ME.  I've been incomprehensible for so long, I TEACH IT TO MBA CANDIDATES.  So if you simply MUST talk about your pineal gland or happy children dancing in the wildflowers, go talk to Roger, because he digs that kind of shit