RATS!!!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I like a pellet gun because it's quieter.

[Hangshai]

Many awesome ideas.  Im working so I will have to post replies later.  Thank you though.  And roger, Im not AGAINST any of that stuff, I mean, technically, my dogs dont get in the attic, so I could use some poison pellets up there or whatever, but bringing down dead rat carcasses from the attic doesnt sound fun..  Finding them (carcasses) sounds like a drag, too.  Just no poison on the ground or whatever.  And, Im still thinking about cats.  My last neighborhood was overrun with them.  Cat shit in the planter boxes, but NO RATS.  Dont know which is worse, though.  Especially on a hot summer day.  The patching of the holes seems like the only sure fire thing that will keep them out.  As long as they stay out of my food and my garden, I can cohabitate with them(is cohabitate a word, the spell-checker keeps fucking with me).

[Ratssinis]

So you cant have Cats? at all? Seems like a dark despotic future to me... I couldn't imagine living without Cats. No wait. I just did. DAMNIT.

[East Coast Hustle]

you want to know the best way to keep wild rats & mice out of your house/apartment/trailer/whatever?

get a male pet rat and make sure to let him run around your house and scent mark the place every so often.

not being facetious. this really works.

[Hangshai]

Thanks again everyone.  Im going to go with patching all the holes I can find.  I can hear them in the walls at night, but as long as they stay outside, then Im cool with it, Im moving out in a couple months anyway.  I definitely want a cat, but not at this house.  My next house I am looking for at the moment is going to be on some property, a couple acres at least, if not more, and I will have an outside cat then.  I fucking HATE cat piss.  It crystallizes after it dries or something and it fucking NEVER totally comes out, so.  No cat pee.

Oh, and the pet rat idea does sound really cool and totally plausible but I just dont think I can hang with a pet rat.  I was going to say my dogs might try to eat it, but they dont seem to fond of the rats that are already here, so, I dont think they would give it much trouble... 

[East Coast Hustle]

I had a pet rat once that taught itself to stick its nose into peoples' pockets and take out any paper money it found. It'd stash the loot under the cushions of my couch. I had that rat for about 2 years and she clocked over $200 for me.

whose dog or cat ever did some shit like that?

[BabylonHoruv]

ferrets are about as good as cats for keeping rats out.  They also live in a cage most of the time.  They do have a smell, so it depends on of you like that smell or not.