Spagbook

[Bu🤠ns]

http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2013/09/30/how-to-be-a-nonconformist-elissa-jane-karg/

This pretty much sums it up for me....and what Roger said.c

That was wonderful! The drawings and lettering were superb.

And they all describe one thing; young people trying to understand themselves and their place in a society that was, at the time, beginning to latch on to the marketing potion of rugged individualism, which is profoundly at odds with human nature and the synthesis of a successful society.

Yeah that's a good way to put it.  And I'm also reminded of that newfeed from here -- that whole 'doing something opposite of the mainstream is still using the mainstream as the primary point of reference' bit.  That still sticks with me.

[Eater of Clowns]

My problem with the word hipster is that it's so wildly different to every person who uses it that it, as a term, is completely useless. Five years ago I was pretty sure I knew what a hipster was. Now hipster appears to mean everyone, and everything, for every reason.

hipster (n.) - a conversational signifier that you are about to lose interest in what's being discussed

I can't tell if the comic is doing this intentionally but it's proving its "one-upsmanship" point more in the last panel than it is with the two guys talking. Two people are having a conversation that they both appear to find interesting and enjoyable. Then the rest of them one up their cred with the conversation meta commentary, shitting on other people's fun.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Yeah. I also love it when people dismiss what I have to say on the basis of me being "a hipster". It happens all the time, especially online, because I have purple bangs and I live in Portland. 42-year-old mother of four? Well, that just makes me a hipster mom. Easily dismissable. Irrelevant.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Also, I have to point out that when old people do exactly what those young people are doing in the comic, we call it "reminiscing". People love to locate shared experiences, especially when they have a shared interest like a particular music genre. That's a large part of how people bond, and figure out how they relate to other people. Who hasn't met someone about their age from their hometown, or someone who went to the same school, and had a conversation that's all "Rememer the murals under the bridge? And Mrs. Peterson?" etc. etc.

[Ben Shapiro]

Also, I have to point out that when old people do exactly what those young people are doing in the comic, we call it "reminiscing". People love to locate shared experiences, especially when they have a shared interest like a particular music genre. That's a large part of how people bond, and figure out how they relate to other people. Who hasn't met someone about their age from their hometown, or someone who went to the same school, and had a conversation that's all "Rememer the murals under the bridge? And Mrs. Peterson?" etc. etc.

Oh boy! Nigel is Nigeling again.  <3

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Also, I have to point out that when old people do exactly what those young people are doing in the comic, we call it "reminiscing". People love to locate shared experiences, especially when they have a shared interest like a particular music genre. That's a large part of how people bond, and figure out how they relate to other people. Who hasn't met someone about their age from their hometown, or someone who went to the same school, and had a conversation that's all "Rememer the murals under the bridge? And Mrs. Peterson?" etc. etc.

Oh boy! Nigel is Nigeling again.  <3

HANG ON TO YOUR PROSTATES, BOYS!

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Nobody ever usually likes it when I do that. 

[Ben Shapiro]

Also, I have to point out that when old people do exactly what those young people are doing in the comic, we call it "reminiscing". People love to locate shared experiences, especially when they have a shared interest like a particular music genre. That's a large part of how people bond, and figure out how they relate to other people. Who hasn't met someone about their age from their hometown, or someone who went to the same school, and had a conversation that's all "Rememer the murals under the bridge? And Mrs. Peterson?" etc. etc.

Oh boy! Nigel is Nigeling again.  <3

HANG ON TO YOUR PROSTATES, BOYS!

I got my helmet and my safety whistle ready!

[Bu🤠ns]

Also, I have to point out that when old people do exactly what those young people are doing in the comic, we call it "reminiscing". People love to locate shared experiences, especially when they have a shared interest like a particular music genre. That's a large part of how people bond, and figure out how they relate to other people. Who hasn't met someone about their age from their hometown, or someone who went to the same school, and had a conversation that's all "Rememer the murals under the bridge? And Mrs. Peterson?" etc. etc.

Oh boy! Nigel is Nigeling again.  <3

HANG ON TO YOUR PROSTATES, BOYS!

I got my helmet and my safety whistle ready!

Also, I have to point out that when old people do exactly what those young people are doing in the comic, we call it "reminiscing". People love to locate shared experiences, especially when they have a shared interest like a particular music genre. That's a large part of how people bond, and figure out how they relate to other people. Who hasn't met someone about their age from their hometown, or someone who went to the same school, and had a conversation that's all "Rememer the murals under the bridge? And Mrs. Peterson?" etc. etc.

Oh boy! Nigel is Nigeling again.  <3

HANG ON TO YOUR PROSTATES, BOYS!

I never let go

[Rococo Modem Basilisk]

I interpreted the comic quite a bit differently. The things they were referencing got increasingly obscure, so there was an air of competition (also indicated by the increasing shortness of references and the speed at which they were thrown out); I'd compare it more to nerd exclusionism -- you know, the YOU'RE NOT A REAL GEEK BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW THE INCREDIBLE HULK'S SHOE SIZE bullshit.

(And, yes, a running gag is that everyone in the comic is a hipster. I don't think the irony of using meta-commentary there was accidental.)

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Nobody ever usually likes it when I do that. 

We say we don't but you know we do.

[Chelagoras The Boulder]

I interpreted the comic quite a bit differently. The things they were referencing got increasingly obscure, so there was an air of competition (also indicated by the increasing shortness of references and the speed at which they were thrown out); I'd compare it more to nerd exclusionism -- you know, the YOU'RE NOT A REAL GEEK BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW THE INCREDIBLE HULK'S SHOE SIZE bullshit.

(And, yes, a running gag is that everyone in the comic is a hipster. I don't think the irony of using meta-commentary there was accidental.)

funny you should mention nerds, i was just talking to someone about the difference between nerds and hipsters and i think it's the sincerity of the thing being enjoyed. Nerds and hipsters can like almost exactly the same things but in different ways. for instance, a hipster can watch an old Godzilla movie and love it ironically, deriving joy from pointing out how cheesy the effects are, and how hoky the rubber suits are and how bad the plot is, whereas an kaiju nerd can love the same movie warts and all, despite and indeed sometimes BECAUSE all those elements are there, it "just wouldn't be X if it didn't have Y".
Nerds take pride in loving things no one else likes/knows about because a shared sense of outsiderhood is part of the culture.
Hipsters appropriate things no one else likes/knows about in an attempt to be the most Interesting Mysterious Person in the Room
Hipsters keep the things they like at a distance, Nerds smother the things they love like an overly attached girlfriend.
Hipsters Do it all to be hip and cool and up on the latest underground trends, Nerds do it to show love for their beloved things, and don't care if it's not cool. If fact, it's better if it's not cool, coolness is the ENEMY.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

for instance, a hipster can watch an old Godzilla movie and love it ironically, deriving joy from pointing out how cheesy the effects are, and how hoky the rubber suits are and how bad the plot is,

And then Roger was a Hipster.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Nobody ever usually likes it when I do that. 

We say we don't but you know we do.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I interpreted the comic quite a bit differently. The things they were referencing got increasingly obscure, so there was an air of competition (also indicated by the increasing shortness of references and the speed at which they were thrown out); I'd compare it more to nerd exclusionism -- you know, the YOU'RE NOT A REAL GEEK BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW THE INCREDIBLE HULK'S SHOE SIZE bullshit.

(And, yes, a running gag is that everyone in the comic is a hipster. I don't think the irony of using meta-commentary there was accidental.)

funny you should mention nerds, i was just talking to someone about the difference between nerds and hipsters and i think it's the sincerity of the thing being enjoyed. Nerds and hipsters can like almost exactly the same things but in different ways. for instance, a hipster can watch an old Godzilla movie and love it ironically, deriving joy from pointing out how cheesy the effects are, and how hoky the rubber suits are and how bad the plot is, whereas an kaiju nerd can love the same movie warts and all, despite and indeed sometimes BECAUSE all those elements are there, it "just wouldn't be X if it didn't have Y".
Nerds take pride in loving things no one else likes/knows about because a shared sense of outsiderhood is part of the culture.
Hipsters appropriate things no one else likes/knows about in an attempt to be the most Interesting Mysterious Person in the Room
Hipsters keep the things they like at a distance, Nerds smother the things they love like an overly attached girlfriend.
Hipsters Do it all to be hip and cool and up on the latest underground trends, Nerds do it to show love for their beloved things, and don't care if it's not cool. If fact, it's better if it's not cool, coolness is the ENEMY.

Who gets to decide who goes in which category?