What Do You Think the Tea Party Movement is About?

[Doktor Howl]

I'm just thinking off the top of my head here, but I've always considered the way that most places handle their budgets to be a completely fucked up process.

You lobby for a certain amount every year.  Let's say you want $100K for your expenses, a number reached by looking at all the things that could go wrong, and making sure you have enough to cover.

So, they give it to you, and you do a really good job of cost-cutting, and only use $80K.

Now you realize that for the next budget cycle, if you haven't used all of your $100K, you're going to have justify why they should give the full amount to you next year, and they're most likely going to cut your budget by at least $20K.  That's right, you get penalized for saving the company money.

So, you spend they balance on useless shit, just to say that you "met your budgetary goals," and the company essentially loses money.

That just doesn't seem smart, does it?

That is fucked up.

My budget per month is something like $95K.  The budget is built from a zero base by yours truly, once a year.  It is then approved or denied.  The good thing:  The prior year's spend has nothing to do with it.  The bad thing:  They routinely tell us to slash 20%, so I just build an extra 20% into the original proposal.

[Elder Iptuous]

That is fucked up.

My budget per month is something like $95K.  The budget is built from a zero base by yours truly, once a year.  It is then approved or denied.  The good thing:  The prior year's spend has nothing to do with it.  The bad thing:  They routinely tell us to slash 20%, so I just build an extra 20% into the original proposal.

We get the same thing on our engineering estimates.
we have forms and spreadsheets based on prior project actuals so that we can tell how much to bid for some work, but we know that the mgt will slash it by upwards of 40% when they pitch it to the customer, so the bids have to be massaged with this in mind.  there's more creativity in the bidding than there is in the actual engineering!

[Elder Iptuous]

So is my department's money.  If I don't spend it unnecessarily, though, it can be used for other things, or simply added back to the bottom line.

True.   i agree that it should be added back to the bottom line. but that doesn't happen.  it all gets fucking spent.  and that's why RP votes against those bills...

But still takes the money.  He puts on a good act for the rubes, though.

Why do you say that he doesn't try to fight against the budget?  He votes against the budget bills every time.  he spends his time up at the podium railing against it...  

And he still takes the money.

i certainly won't argue that earmarks aren't being used for corrupt purposes. when i said they were a red herring, i was referring specifically to the criticisms leveled against RP....

And we can't have that.  It's different when "Dr Paul" does it.

Dok,
I've thought about it a bit, and i now think you're right.  it is bullshit.
I don't think he's just putting on a show while actually gunning for the status quo, and i do think that he believes his justification (i can see where he's coming from), but it is bullshit that he can stand ideologically behind the limited role of fedgov, but in the end use the money for what he admits is unauthorized use...
he should cut off his nose to spite his face, if the goal is to claw off the whole ugly head...
just thought i ought to say that.

[Doktor Howl]

Dok,
I've thought about it a bit, and i now think you're right.  it is bullshit.
I don't think he's just putting on a show while actually gunning for the status quo, and i do think that he believes his justification (i can see where he's coming from), but it is bullshit that he can stand ideologically behind the limited role of fedgov, but in the end use the money for what he admits is unauthorized use...
he should cut off his nose to spite his face, if the goal is to claw off the whole ugly head...
just thought i ought to say that.

Okay, so here's a thought:  Why don't YOU run for office?  Not being snarky, here.

[Elder Iptuous]

Dok,
I've thought about it a bit, and i now think you're right.  it is bullshit.
I don't think he's just putting on a show while actually gunning for the status quo, and i do think that he believes his justification (i can see where he's coming from), but it is bullshit that he can stand ideologically behind the limited role of fedgov, but in the end use the money for what he admits is unauthorized use...
he should cut off his nose to spite his face, if the goal is to claw off the whole ugly head...
just thought i ought to say that.

Okay, so here's a thought:  Why don't YOU run for office?  Not being snarky, here.

I've considered it.
but i don't know if i want to put my family through the wringer that would inevitably occur to anyone that gets into an office that makes any impact and doesn't join the beast.
also, i believe that there will be systemic collapse in my lifetime.  perhaps there will be opportunity for political service in that time...
I dunno...

how about you?

[Doktor Howl]

Dok,
I've thought about it a bit, and i now think you're right.  it is bullshit.
I don't think he's just putting on a show while actually gunning for the status quo, and i do think that he believes his justification (i can see where he's coming from), but it is bullshit that he can stand ideologically behind the limited role of fedgov, but in the end use the money for what he admits is unauthorized use...
he should cut off his nose to spite his face, if the goal is to claw off the whole ugly head...
just thought i ought to say that.

Okay, so here's a thought:  Why don't YOU run for office?  Not being snarky, here.

I've considered it.
but i don't know if i want to put my family through the wringer that would inevitably occur to anyone that gets into an office that makes any impact and doesn't join the beast.
also, i believe that there will be systemic collapse in my lifetime.  perhaps there will be opportunity for political service in that time...
I dunno...

how about you?

1.  It's either that, or they go through the same wringer as everyone else, as these bastards rape us all.

2.  Yes, a pill head with an unhealthy addiction to cactus and perverts will fly.    If I ran, it would be on the Freak Ticket.

[Elder Iptuous]

1.  It's either that, or they go through the same wringer as everyone else, as these bastards rape us all.

2.  Yes, a pill head with an unhealthy addiction to cactus and perverts will fly.    If I ran, it would be on the Freak Ticket.

i think the wringer can be minimized for those that prepare and keep their head low.

I would join you on the Freak Ticket...
I'll run for sheriff.

[Doktor Howl]

1.  It's either that, or they go through the same wringer as everyone else, as these bastards rape us all.

2.  Yes, a pill head with an unhealthy addiction to cactus and perverts will fly.    If I ran, it would be on the Freak Ticket.

i think the wringer can be minimized for those that prepare and keep their head low.

I would join you on the Freak Ticket...
I'll run for sheriff.

Not the Freak Power ticket, which included the late great HST.

The Freak Ticket, which includes tape worm fetishists, branding freaks, and body modification weirdos.

[Elder Iptuous]

1.  It's either that, or they go through the same wringer as everyone else, as these bastards rape us all.

2.  Yes, a pill head with an unhealthy addiction to cactus and perverts will fly.    If I ran, it would be on the Freak Ticket.

i think the wringer can be minimized for those that prepare and keep their head low.

I would join you on the Freak Ticket...
I'll run for sheriff.

Not the Freak Power ticket, which included the late great HST.

The Freak Ticket, which includes tape worm fetishists, branding freaks, and body modification weirdos.

although i, myself, am NRFB, i consider those people to be, in part, my people.
hoist the freak flag!

[Doktor Howl]

1.  It's either that, or they go through the same wringer as everyone else, as these bastards rape us all.

2.  Yes, a pill head with an unhealthy addiction to cactus and perverts will fly.    If I ran, it would be on the Freak Ticket.

i think the wringer can be minimized for those that prepare and keep their head low.

I would join you on the Freak Ticket...
I'll run for sheriff.

Not the Freak Power ticket, which included the late great HST.

The Freak Ticket, which includes tape worm fetishists, branding freaks, and body modification weirdos.

although i, myself, am NRFB, i consider those people to be, in part, my people.
hoist the freak flag!

NRFB?

[Elder Iptuous]

Never Removed From Box.
a collectibles value is dimished if altered from it's factory condition.
I'm still in stock condition.  except hairier....

[Doktor Howl]

Never Removed From Box.
a collectibles value is dimished if altered from it's factory condition.
I'm still in stock condition.  except hairier....

Ho ho!  You'd fetch a fine price from the dirty boys on Grant Street.

[Elder Iptuous]

Never Removed From Box.
a collectibles value is dimished if altered from it's factory condition.
I'm still in stock condition.  except hairier....

Ho ho!  You'd fetch a fine price from the dirty boys on Grant Street.

Ain't nobody going to soil the good name of Sheriff Iptuous, so tell them Grant Street fellows to back off, cause this action figure comes with a M-82 and kung foo grip!

[Doktor Howl]

Never Removed From Box.
a collectibles value is dimished if altered from it's factory condition.
I'm still in stock condition.  except hairier....

Ho ho!  You'd fetch a fine price from the dirty boys on Grant Street.

Ain't nobody going to soil the good name of Sheriff Iptuous, so tell them Grant Street fellows to back off, cause this action figure comes with a M-82 and kung foo grip!

SOLD.

Dok,
Gotta get paid.

[Doktor Howl]

And I look trustworthy with a shave, suit & haircut.

A likely story. 

See, we know the truth about the British.