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Pot/drugs: An all-encompassing explanation.

Started by Doktor Howl, February 15, 2010, 09:50:26 PM

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I once broke up with a guy because he stuck his finger in my ear, but I told him it was because I was getting back together with his employee.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Bruno

Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 20, 2010, 01:33:54 AM
I once broke up with a guy because he stuck his finger in my ear, but I told him it was because I was getting back together with his employee.

Oh Nigel, don't lie. You know you really broke up with him because he's never done lampwork before.

YOU'VE SEEN COLORS HE CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE!!!
Formerly something else...

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on February 20, 2010, 01:47:36 AM
Quote from: Calamity Nigel on February 20, 2010, 01:33:54 AM
I once broke up with a guy because he stuck his finger in my ear, but I told him it was because I was getting back together with his employee.

Oh Nigel, don't lie. You know you really broke up with him because he's never done lampwork before.

YOU'VE SEEN COLORS HE CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE!!!

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

I should have broken up with him because he "doesn't have the same creative vision".
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Except it was only one date, an actual breakup was not called for.

It was only for pleasure.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


the last yatto

Look, asshole:  Your 'incomprehensible' act, your word-salad, your pinealism...It BORES ME.  I've been incomprehensible for so long, I TEACH IT TO MBA CANDIDATES.  So if you simply MUST talk about your pineal gland or happy children dancing in the wildflowers, go talk to Roger, because he digs that kind of shit

Pope Pixie Pickle

Give me Payne, a dirtbike and shotgun, a Shaolin spade and Enki as a zombie distraction/snack.  I will also steal a boat and head for the Isle Of Wight.

Bring It, zombie hoardes!

Captain Utopia

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 20, 2010, 12:57:56 AM
Quote from: fogukaup on February 19, 2010, 01:39:02 AM
what or who is responsible for catalyzing open-mindedness? I think an external "adulterant" be it traveling, reading,  or a drug is required to dissolve your concrete opinions and assumptions.  Of course it was me that did it but  drugs have certain universal personalities and characteristics that persuade your mind to receive change.

Yeah, you are full of shit.  You don't need a foreign chemical to catalyze open-mindedness.  All you need is awareness.
That's like saying you don't need a car to get across the country, so it's more virtuous to walk.  I lived to 26 years of age without experiencing the effects of pot.  It started me on a path to awareness and self-improvement I had never cared about before that.

Do I think it's an answer for everything and everyone?  No.

But neither is pot entirely without merit.

Xooxe

QuoteBring It, zombie hoardes!

I was thinking that it would be fun to get an entire country to fake a zombie uprising. Can anyone think of the best way to get all of Luxembourg to have a go at it? They're small enough to pull it off.

Pope Pixie Pickle


Bonsai Ent

funfact: In Britain, giving workers tea instead of gin was considered highly controversial, because the gin kept workers more docile.

Though saying drugs have no spiritual value isn't necessarily true.

For a lot of people, the role of religion in their lives really is the same as the role of pot.
It numbs the pain and keeps them in order.

"sanity is just psychopathology in vogue"

Triple Zero

FP, hm very good point. There are some parts in spirituality and whatnot I would never have understood without shrooms, for instance. To be fair, I can't really say pot ever did something like that for me. To me pot is just a different flavour of get-you-fucked-upper like alcohol.
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

Pope Pixie Pickle

I had some awesome conversations with tree spirits on shrooms. Animism made more sense on natural hallucinogens, and I still threaten my washing machine with defenestration when it won't work, and speak softly to my PC when it has a paddy.


Triple Zero

Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I've never had anything other than tremendously, earth-shatteringly fun adventures on shrooms. I suppose that's pretty much a religious experience for me, because as far as I'm concerned fun is holy and having fun is a sacrament.

Other experiences with drugs have been pretty enjoyable for the most part. Except the one time I took acid, in which everything was boring and I couldn't sleep. Also, cocaine, which I hate.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Captain Utopia

I never took cocaine.  One Erowid entry described it as "a feeling of godlike confidence", and that just sounded.. well, lame, to me.

I can't say that I've had a spiritual experience while on drugs, but I've sometimes found significance in experiences a while after the event - while not intoxicated.  So like RHWN said, you can probably gain the same perspectives more slowly without the help of some chemical substance.

But all other things being equal, it's like the "if god had meant us to fly, he would have given us wings" argument.