Pot/drugs: An all-encompassing explanation.

[Freeky]

Fuck yeah.  If I have to be ill, I may as well be in an altered state of mind whilst suffering it.

Unfortunately, I have to actually go to the shops, since I am out of all those items.  I wonder how many strange stares I can get if I buy a packet of condoms and some bandages at the same time?

PICS.

[Cramulus]

speaking as a mother,


-they've increased my self-awareness
-they've broadened my sense of humor
-they've helped me bond with my friends
-they've made me more empathetic to others, especially animals
-they've often been the impetus for various types of life change which I pursue while sober

Do you think those things would have come about without the chemical aid?

WELL

it's tough to say, right? If Columbus' men mutinied, would there ever be a new world? Sure. But it might have turned out entirely differently.

One of the lessons I learned from hallucinogens was how to see things better from other people's point of view. What Leary might have called a "4th circuit" experience. You can have these experiences in lots of different ways. For some, tripping out is a nice shortcut to get what some people get from a near death experience. A sort of outsider-perspective on your life.

I don't use hallucinogens for recreation. I mean, they're fun, but I don't do them because they're a good time. Every so often I need to squeegee the dust out of my third eye.

There's dust gathering behind my computer monitor which I didn't notice until I was tripping. I suddenly became aware of how messy my room was, and how that was fractally connected to my lifestyle. I started to clean, and in doing so, I began to examine my processes and routines. I realized that I run basically four different programs, and those scripts determine 95% of my environment.

So I decided I needed to build novelty into my schedule, something which took me out of my routine stimulus-and-response lifestyle. So for a while, Wednesday was my day for doing something new. On Wednesdays, when I got back from work, I'd go for a hike or make art or learn something. I tried to build this into my routine (with limited success). I do not think I would have had this great idea without first having breached myself, without having popped the bubble of everyday life.

If I had read a post about doing this, even if I had agreed with the idea, it wouldn't have had the same effect. I needed to experience that torrential flow of ideas, that disorientation and confusion.

It can be very difficult to see things outside of your rut. When you allow yourself to enter the Altered headspace, it gives you a different perspective about your everyday consciousness. A lot of people don't like opening that box when they trip. It can be very uncomfortable. But for me, a trip is more like psychic housekeeping than an amusement park ride.

[Captain Utopia]

Wow - you see whole programs?  I have only ever glimpsed perhaps a dozen or so subroutines - small specific examples which influence behaviour only in particular situations.  Mind you the only "trip" I've had was salvia, once, and that was over before it began.  I'm going to try changing my focus to the bigger picture though, as I never thought to look in that direction.

The last few times I've used pot (2-3 months ago) I was interested in trying to find ways to recreate the experience of being able to effortlessly analyse everyday consciousness, while sober.  For me, being able to turn it off/pause would be just as useful as being able to turn it on.  But, I don't have a regular supply, and the process has stalled - it's hard making maps when you can't visit the other territory to take notes.

But I think it might be possible.

[Cain]

I just want to point out that Colonel Qadafi rocked the gangja pretty heavily back in the day, and it turned it from a bloodthirsty African dictator into...well, the lovechild of Sarah Palin and Dan Quayle.

See kids, better living through chemistry does produce results!

[Cramulus]

                  ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE
                                         \

[Cain]

He was totally stoned and/or trolling when at the UN.  I also think he may be trying to be a Carlos Santana body double, though I'm not sure.

[Faust]

                 ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE
                                        \

Goddamnit he's such a lovable mug.

[the last yatto]

Every so often I need to squeegee the dust out of my third eye.

[Xooxe]

Also, what-speaking strictly about hallucinogens-has been added to your life in a substantial way?

I'm very curious about real-live examples of this.

Permanent mild hallucinations when faced with symmetrical, repeating patterns like wicker baskets and floor tiles. 

[BabylonHoruv]

why didn't nature have our bodies produce these amino acids internally?

poor diet choice over the ages? and is it all homos that require it, or just some of them, ie european/whites

If one group of humans require it, they all do.

But to different degrees, white skinned people require less sunlight than dark skinned people, but it is easier for whites to overdose on sunlight and get skin cancer or just sun burns.  Europeans are also almost universally able to digest lactose, Asians are less likely to be able to.

So what do whites do?  put vitamin D (the vitamin we get from sunlight) in their milk.  Mind you, we all need vitamin D, as well as calcium and protein in the milk, but we get it different ways.

Perhaps we also all need our brains stimulated in certain ways, but the degrees vary, probably within "races" as most human genetics tend to do.

[BabylonHoruv]

Also, what-speaking strictly about hallucinogens-has been added to your life in a substantial way?

I'm very curious about real-live examples of this. I've done them, and I can't think of anything.

Does that fall under trip report?  I have had DXM relieve shooting numbness in my leg, through having a conversation with my internal organs.  The numbness had been chronic prior to that and was relieved at that point.  Although my mother (a massotherapist) had also worked on it.  I also did magic  on it, I tend to bomb things like that with as many possible approaches as I can.

Ayahuasca short circuited my borderline, something no other drug (including prescripton pills) had been able to do.  It wore off after a few months, but it was nice while it lasted.

Mushrooms and Peyote are religious for me, I am not sure I can say that they have added in ways that are as easily quantifiable, but being able to identify the big bear (not just the big dipper) feels valuable to me.  being able to see the interactions between trees animated for me, in a way that seems fairly accurate, feels valuable.  It would probably be more so if I were trying to affect the trees in some way.

I can still see the big bear and the interactions between the trees though, and the experiences were years ago.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Taking pot or any other hallucinogen, once or twice, can "expand your mind" or let you experience things that can also be accomplished in other ways.

Continuing to take the drug, afterwards, is pointless and anyone who claims it's still expanding their mind is bullshitting. It's like opening a door, once it's open it's open.

Pot and mushrooms gave me a couple of really profound experiences, many years ago. Nowadays I do pot cos I like it, same reason I do beer. Mushrooms? Meh! Been there, done it - it's a one trick pony, fucking good trick but no point repeating.

Also worth noting is that drugs are, at best, a piss poor substitute for genuine insanity - they're like "mental" for fucking tourists. You want to really learn something about your mind, fuck the chemicals, quit being such a pussy and go for the full blown chemical imbalance. Sure you might never make it back but that's the price you have to pay for the authentic "high"

[Doktor Howl]

why didn't nature have our bodies produce these amino acids internally?

poor diet choice over the ages? and is it all homos that require it, or just some of them, ie european/whites

If one group of humans require it, they all do.

But to different degrees, white skinned people require less sunlight than dark skinned people, but it is easier for whites to overdose on sunlight and get skin cancer or just sun burns.  Europeans are also almost universally able to digest lactose, Asians are less likely to be able to.

So what do whites do?  put vitamin D (the vitamin we get from sunlight) in their milk.  Mind you, we all need vitamin D, as well as calcium and protein in the milk, but we get it different ways.

Perhaps we also all need our brains stimulated in certain ways, but the degrees vary, probably within "races" as most human genetics tend to do.

Which amino acids do Black people not need?

[Doktor Howl]

Taking pot or any other hallucinogen, once or twice, can "expand your mind" or let you experience things that can also be accomplished in other ways.

Continuing to take the drug, afterwards, is pointless and anyone who claims it's still expanding their mind is bullshitting. It's like opening a door, once it's open it's open.

Pot and mushrooms gave me a couple of really profound experiences, many years ago. Nowadays I do pot cos I like it, same reason I do beer. Mushrooms? Meh! Been there, done it - it's a one trick pony, fucking good trick but no point repeating.

Also worth noting is that drugs are, at best, a piss poor substitute for genuine insanity - they're like "mental" for fucking tourists. You want to really learn something about your mind, fuck the chemicals, quit being such a pussy and go for the full blown chemical imbalance. Sure you might never make it back but that's the price you have to pay for the authentic "high"

This.

[Jenne]

Taking pot or any other hallucinogen, once or twice, can "expand your mind" or let you experience things that can also be accomplished in other ways.

Continuing to take the drug, afterwards, is pointless and anyone who claims it's still expanding their mind is bullshitting. It's like opening a door, once it's open it's open.

Pot and mushrooms gave me a couple of really profound experiences, many years ago. Nowadays I do pot cos I like it, same reason I do beer. Mushrooms? Meh! Been there, done it - it's a one trick pony, fucking good trick but no point repeating.

Also worth noting is that drugs are, at best, a piss poor substitute for genuine insanity - they're like "mental" for fucking tourists. You want to really learn something about your mind, fuck the chemicals, quit being such a pussy and go for the full blown chemical imbalance. Sure you might never make it back but that's the price you have to pay for the authentic "high"

Missed ya, Silly.