Tea Party: No longer harmless nutters

[The Wizard]

Judging from the statistics between when there is a death penalty and when there isn't, there is no deterrent value whatsoever.

I don't trust statistics, unless they're from an exceptionally trustworthy source. It's way too easy to fudge them one way or the other.

[Doktor Howl]

I don't trust statistics,

Okay, we'll just throw away all analytical science, then.

[Doktor Howl]

Did you know that biodiversity is because Baby Jesus was bored, and had nothing to do with genetic variation?

It's true.  And I didn't need to use any statistics.

ETA:  We can use this to refute any ugly facts that frighten our beautiful personal theories, kids!

[The Wizard]

Did you know that biodiversity is because Baby Jesus was bored, and had nothing to do with genetic variation?

It's true.  And I didn't need to use any statistics.

Point taken. 

[Doktor Howl]

But once we introduce those nefarious secular-humanist "statistics" and "data" (*spit*), we find that:

The South, which carries out over 80% of the executions in the U. S., has the highest murder rate of the four regions.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-about-deterrence-and-death-penalty

And the sources for these awful theory-killers can be found here:

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates#stateswithvwithout

Someone should do something about these bastards at the census bureau and those liberal freaks at the FBI.   

[Requia ☣]

You forgot where the threat of the death penalty is used in a confess-or-you-get-the-chair manner.

[Doktor Howl]

You forgot where the threat of the death penalty is used in a confess-or-you-get-the-chair manner.

Well, right now we're just discussing its deterrent value, not it's other fun uses.

[The Wizard]

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-about-deterrence-and-death-penalty

And the sources for these awful theory-killers can be found here:

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates#stateswithvwithout

Someone should do something about these bastards at the census bureau and those liberal freaks at the FBI.   

Solid sources. Nice. But then again, there's the matter of how often the death penalty has been used in the past decade or so? The site you cited pointed out that the U.S. only recently got out of a dry period for the death penalty. So, it's been a couple decades since the death penalty been really taken seriously, and even then, many people sentenced to death might as well get a life sentence given how long it takes for them to finally get there. So, the way the death penalty's been used and is used currently, it's been effectively neutered.

[Kai]

yeah, rehabilitation is a myth. If somebody commits a crime, they have a criminal's soul. All prison sentences should be life sentences. 

On the other hand, smart, strict honor codes with harsh punishments do wonders for society.

[the last yatto]

I was sad to see that Akio Toyoda didnt commit Seppuku in the House

[Elder Iptuous]

I was sad to see that Akio Toyoda didnt commit Seppuku in the House

I was sad that he didn't show up in a Toyota iWalk:

[LMNO]

I'm pretty sure the pic I'm seeing isn't the pic you intended.


On the other hand, now I want to use the artist for the new Boysetsfire album to do my cover art.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Killing people that cross the tribes most important rules is an age old tradition and has little to do with deterrence... it has everything to do with getting revenge on the murderous little monkey.

[Elder Iptuous]

I'm pretty sure the pic I'm seeing isn't the pic you intended.


On the other hand, now I want to use the artist for the new Boysetsfire album to do my cover art.

you're seeing something other than a bipedal robot mount? (or are you referring to a different post?)

[LMNO]

I'm pretty sure the pic I'm seeing isn't the pic you intended.


On the other hand, now I want to use the artist for the new Boysetsfire album to do my cover art.

you're seeing something other than a bipedal robot mount? (or are you referring to a different post?)

I'm seeing an ad for the new Boysetsfire album "Above This Clouded Mind", available at www.thelookmachine.com