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Started by Cramulus, March 02, 2010, 08:00:30 PM

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A few years ago, chemists invented Marinol, the prescription version of pot. These synthetic pot pills supposedly worked just like regular weed, except that they take an hour (rather than minutes) to kick in. They're also super expensive, often $700 for 30 pills.

Some people in China and Korea apparently took another crack (no pun intended) at synthesizing THC. Their product is currently being sold in the US under the name K2. It's also known as Sunset Gold and Nirvana.

I learned about it from a Discordian who is on parole, and smokes K2 because it's still legal and doesn't show up on drug tests. A few states are in the early stages of banning it, but it's still legal in everywhere in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K2_(drug)
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/22708093/detail.html


The current media reaction focuses on the lack of clinical data about the drug, but apparently, the results are already in. They use words like, "addictive and dangerous" and "looming menace". I'm pretty sure we'll see drugs like K2 and Salvia slowly be outlawed because they don't fit within the double-standard of acceptable drug use in the US. (ie, speed is bad for you, unless you have a prescription)

I wonder though, if the results come in clean, if there will still be a witch hunt. Ecstasy turned out to be relatively clean (at least, the E that was being sold in the mid 90s... all over the glove, E quality has gone down while prices rise), and in fact is quite useful in treating certain types of ailments, but it's still considered FECKING CRIMINAL by the law.


This is unrelated, but Regret linked me to an article about Meow Meow, something they're calling the "new ecstasy". It is only mentioned here because of the following quote:

Quotethere have been a number of people admitted to hospital with bizarre side-effects, including a teenage boy, who is reported to have had such severe hallucinations that he ripped off his scrotum.



have you guys heard anything about either of these?

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Cramulus on March 02, 2010, 08:00:30 PM
I learned about it from a Discordian who is on parole, and smokes K2 because it's still legal and doesn't show up on drug tests. A few states are in the early stages of banning it, but it's still legal in everywhere in the US.

Well, thank goodness for those states.  We can't have people running around all unregulated, you know.  They know what's good for you, Cram, and they'll keep you safe from this shit if it kills you.  After all, a ruined life due to draconian drug laws is a small price to pay for avoiding the hideous dangers of drugs, right?

Quote from: Cramulus on March 02, 2010, 08:00:30 PM
This is unrelated, but Regret linked me to an article about Meow Meow, something they're calling the "new ecstasy". It is only mentioned here because of the following quote:

Quotethere have been a number of people admitted to hospital with bizarre side-effects, including a teenage boy, who is reported to have had such severe hallucinations that he ripped off his scrotum.

:lulz:

Now there's a kid who is serious about having a good time.

Not sure what that has to do with E, though.
Molon Lube

LMNO

I BE ROLLIN' ON MUSTACHE.


TRIPPIEST TRIP, HIGHEST HIGH.  DON'T NEED NO PASSPORT, JUST GET YOURSELF SOME PRIMO MUSTACHE.

YOU'LL BE GLAD YOU DID.


LMNO
-MUSTACHE PUSHER.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: LMNO on March 02, 2010, 08:12:15 PM
I BE ROLLIN' ON MUSTACHE.


TRIPPIEST TRIP, HIGHEST HIGH.  DON'T NEED NO PASSPORT, JUST GET YOURSELF SOME PRIMO MUSTACHE.

YOU'LL BE GLAD YOU DID.


LMNO
-MUSTACHE PUSHER.

This is your face.   :)

This is your face on 'stache.  :mullet:

Don't do 'stache, kids.  Not even once.
Molon Lube

LMNO

NAW, MAN.  YOU GOTTA TRY THE 'STACHE, IT'LL SET YOU MIND ON FIRE.


TELL YOU WHAT.  FIRST 'STACHE IS FREE.


GOTTA GET THE 'STACHE.


GOTTA.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: LMNO on March 02, 2010, 08:17:39 PM
NAW, MAN.  YOU GOTTA TRY THE 'STACHE, IT'LL SET YOU MIND ON FIRE.


TELL YOU WHAT.  FIRST 'STACHE IS FREE.


GOTTA GET THE 'STACHE.


GOTTA.

I feel an overwhelming urge to revisit the Montana Meth shoops.

You have been warned.
Molon Lube

LMNO

WHATEVER, MAN.

WHEN YOU'RE ON THE 'STACHE, NOTHING MATTERS EXCEPT TO GET MORE 'STACHE.


YOU GOTTA GET THE 'STACHE.


YOU GOTTA.



GOTTA.

Doktor Howl

Molon Lube

Reginald Ret

another source on mephedrone/meow meow.
QuoteWhat does it feel like?
Everyone's subjective opinions are different but the overall impression is that MMCAT is
like a cocaine version of MDMA (Ecstasy). User reports indicate some of the same
"loved-up" feeling of MDMA – but not to the same extent, with the euphoria, reward
and ego of cocaine – but again not to the same extent. Alongside all this, some
significant stimulant effects including increased energy, restlessness, increased heart-rate
and jaw-clenching.
Some people feel increased libido while using but others report reduced erectile
function.

Sounds like scrotum boy thought it was a good idea to use about 20 times the recommended dose and/or combine with other stuff.
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Regret on March 02, 2010, 08:23:54 PM
another source on mephedrone/meow meow.
QuoteWhat does it feel like?
Everyone's subjective opinions are different but the overall impression is that MMCAT is
like a cocaine version of MDMA (Ecstasy). User reports indicate some of the same
"loved-up" feeling of MDMA – but not to the same extent, with the euphoria, reward
and ego of cocaine – but again not to the same extent. Alongside all this, some
significant stimulant effects including increased energy, restlessness, increased heart-rate
and jaw-clenching.
Some people feel increased libido while using but others report reduced erectile
function.

Sounds like scrotum boy thought it was a good idea to use about 20 times the recommended dose and/or combine with other stuff.

"Too much is always better than not enough."
- Some old hipster.
Molon Lube

Nast

SCROTUM?

DAMN NEAR RECTUM.
"If I owned Goodwill, no charity worker would feel safe.  I would sit in my office behind a massive pile of cocaine, racking my pistol's slide every time the cleaning lady came near.  Auditors, I'd just shoot."

Richter

Quote from: Cramulus on March 02, 2010, 08:00:30 PM
A few years ago, chemists invented Marinol, the prescription version of pot. These synthetic pot pills supposedly worked just like regular weed, except that they take an hour (rather than minutes) to kick in. They're also super expensive, often $700 for 30 pills.

Some people in China and Korea apparently took another crack (no pun intended) at synthesizing THC. Their product is currently being sold in the US under the name K2. It's also known as Sunset Gold and Nirvana.

I learned about it from a Discordian who is on parole, and smokes K2 because it's still legal and doesn't show up on drug tests. A few states are in the early stages of banning it, but it's still legal in everywhere in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K2_(drug)
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/22708093/detail.html


The current media reaction focuses on the lack of clinical data about the drug, but apparently, the results are already in. They use words like, "addictive and dangerous" and "looming menace". I'm pretty sure we'll see drugs like K2 and Salvia slowly be outlawed because they don't fit within the double-standard of acceptable drug use in the US. (ie, speed is bad for you, unless you have a prescription)

I wonder though, if the results come in clean, if there will still be a witch hunt. Ecstasy turned out to be relatively clean (at least, the E that was being sold in the mid 90s... all over the glove, E quality has gone down while prices rise), and in fact is quite useful in treating certain types of ailments, but it's still considered FECKING CRIMINAL by the law.


This is unrelated, but Regret linked me to an article about Meow Meow, something they're calling the "new ecstasy". It is only mentioned here because of the following quote:

Quotethere have been a number of people admitted to hospital with bizarre side-effects, including a teenage boy, who is reported to have had such severe hallucinations that he ripped off his scrotum.



have you guys heard anything about either of these?

I've heard of the synthetic, "invisible to test" weed - alikes.  I know one old stoner dude who gets them from a local head shop, where they charge $30 for a golf ball sized jar of the stuff.  He testifies it's the same kind of high.


Unrestricted recreational folicle growth, however,  can damage your chromosomes, scare women, and may send errant hairs into your brain, making you think you're having fun while the devil stache controls your actions.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 22, 2015, 03:00:53 AM
Anyone ever think about how Richter inhabits the same reality as you and just scream and scream and scream, but in a good way?   :lulz:

Friendly Neighborhood Mentat

LMNO

SAYS THE GUY WITH THE 'STACHE.


ADMIT IT, YOU JUST WANT TO KEEP ALL THE 'STACHE FOR YOURSELF.

'CUZ THERE'S NOTHING BETTER THAN A GOOD 'STACHE.

NUTHIN.

GOTTA GET MORE 'STACHE.


GOTTA.

Rococo Modem Basilisk

The article on Meow Meow seems like it's BS, or at least not well-researched. It calls Salvia "herbal ecstasy". Isn't salvia divinorum a potent hallucinogen with a fundamentally different affect than ecstasy?


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Damn, I'm not sure why, but after reading this, I really feel like getting a stash of 'stache...
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