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[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm gonna homeschool.

I totally agree.  Ive got a pretty good idea how well public schooling works, and I think I (and maybe tutors here and there) can do better.  Not only can I do better than most algebra teachers (partly due to their split attention), but homeschooling would be a good way to bond with my kid (in theory; no existing contingencies exist).

I don't know how well I'd be able to teach upper level math, but I can do reading and writing skills like nobody's business.

When your kid gets to that point, send him to community college.

*IF* your state allows for that. Mine doesn't. You have to 18 or have graduated to go.

WTF?

I've never heard of something that stupid. I know that in Oregon, Washington and California, you can take college courses and simultaneously earn college and high school credits. It's common for AP and homeschooled kids.

[Doktor Howl]

I'm gonna homeschool.

I totally agree.  Ive got a pretty good idea how well public schooling works, and I think I (and maybe tutors here and there) can do better.  Not only can I do better than most algebra teachers (partly due to their split attention), but homeschooling would be a good way to bond with my kid (in theory; no existing contingencies exist).

I don't know how well I'd be able to teach upper level math, but I can do reading and writing skills like nobody's business.

When your kid gets to that point, send him to community college.

*IF* your state allows for that. Mine doesn't. You have to 18 or have graduated to go.

WTF?

I've never heard of something that stupid.

Illinois is that way (at least it was during the 80s), and I'm fairly certain AZ is, too.

[Suu]

The only way I could go to community or junior college in high school was if I was in dual enrollment...through a public or private high school, not via home school.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

That is unbelievably retarded.  What is the rationale for it?

[Doktor Howl]

That is unbelievably retarded.  What is the rationale for it?

Dunno.  Maybe to keep kids from dropping out of HS to attend CC.

Specifically, IL's policy was 18 years old or your class must have graduated.

[LMNO]

That is unbelievably retarded.  What is the rationale for it?

Well, chances are good it's not for educational reasons...

[Freeky]

That is unbelievably retarded.  What is the rationale for it?

Dunno.  Maybe to keep kids from dropping out of HS to attend CC.

Specifically, IL's policy was 18 years old or your class must have graduated.

I know you can attend Pima CC if you're still in High school.

[Doktor Howl]

That is unbelievably retarded.  What is the rationale for it?

Dunno.  Maybe to keep kids from dropping out of HS to attend CC.

Specifically, IL's policy was 18 years old or your class must have graduated.

I know you can attend Pima CC if you're still in High school.

Okay, is that dual enrollment, or open enrollment?  Not sure about AZ.

[Jenne]

Dual enrollment is a recent-ish phenomenon, iirc.  Not all state junior colleges allow it maybe due to enrollment caps.  Also, there might be a disconnect in curricular issues as well.

[Freeky]

That is unbelievably retarded.  What is the rationale for it?

Dunno.  Maybe to keep kids from dropping out of HS to attend CC.

Specifically, IL's policy was 18 years old or your class must have graduated.

I know you can attend Pima CC if you're still in High school.

Okay, is that dual enrollment, or open enrollment?  Not sure about AZ.

I'll take a look.

[Richter]

That is unbelievably retarded.  What is the rationale for it?

Superficially, yeah, kids who can do college level work SHOULD be able to.  Doesn't automatically equate to having them at the college as a BETTER alternative though.  Making AP courses available is a definite, but I have questions about the CC option

Are they going to respond well to a more open college class structure of lectures then study and review on their own?  Some might thrive in it, some might not.  Like Suu pointed out, without the disipline / expectation in the home for the kid to do their work, almsot any education could be pretty useless.

Is this going to b eclusive to high performers?  I can see both situations where bored behavior problems thrive in a more self guided structure, and how schools might start to see the CC as a dumping ground for behavior problems in general.  I've seen public schools try every form of coddling, deal making, and pass - off to "accomodate" shitheads.

 

[Jenne]

That is unbelievably retarded.  What is the rationale for it?

Superficially, yeah, kids who can do college level work SHOULD be able to.  Doesn't automatically equate to having them at the college as a BETTER alternative though.  Making AP courses available is a definite, but I have questions about the CC option

Are they going to respond well to a more open college class structure of lectures then study and review on their own?  Some might thrive in it, some might not.  Like Suu pointed out, without the disipline / expectation in the home for the kid to do their work, almsot any education could be pretty useless.

Is this going to b eclusive to high performers?  I can see both situations where bored behavior problems thrive in a more self guided structure, and how schools might start to see the CC as a dumping ground for behavior problems in general.  I've seen public schools try every form of coddling, deal making, and pass - off to "accomodate" shitheads.

 

I think the h.s. folks who are allowed dual enrollment have to have a certain GPA maintained or a certain number of h.s. equivalencies already in their back pockets.  This precludes a lot of the above.  There's a PTA article on this somewhere t hat I can dig up for you.  I  actually wrote an article for my own SD County PTAs on this very subject.

[Freeky]

That is unbelievably retarded.  What is the rationale for it?

Dunno.  Maybe to keep kids from dropping out of HS to attend CC.

Specifically, IL's policy was 18 years old or your class must have graduated.

I know you can attend Pima CC if you're still in High school.

Okay, is that dual enrollment, or open enrollment?  Not sure about AZ.

I'll take a look.

Anyone 16 and under has to get special permission from the Dean. That's all.

[Jenne]

http://pta.org/2431.htm

Here.  That's the article.  I referenced it in my own "college readiness" article.  So it seems they are revolutionizing this whole process to a large extent, as well, to offer it to folks who aren't always university track as well.

ETA:  When I taught at UCLA, I found the folks that'd started out in h.s. in the community college courses were often harder working and took their college learning more seriously.  Same when I student taught at Santa Monica Community College.

[Suu]

Rule in my county in Florida was in order to go to SPJC (Now St. Petersburg College) you had to have had at least a GED, or be over the age of 16 and in a district-approved dual enrollment course. You couldn't skip high school to go or come from a homeschool background unless it was an approved course. It makes sense to me. Homeschooling is too risky. How do you know the parent isn't just sending in A's so their kid can pass? It's happened before. Some 13 year old girl was doing graduate school from home and was supposedly some sort of genius thanks to the magic of homeschooling and it turned out that the parents were just sending in the tests with the right answers.