fuck you utah legislature

[cavehamster]

you're improving. that actually made me chuckle out loud.

however, while OKM is for rants, it's for rants posted with the understanding that they are open to full-blown criticism and brutal honesty and no pulled punches is the way it's always been in OKM. I honestly can't imagine why anyone sane and progressive would choose to live in Utah and to support the kind of people that run that place with their money. Eventually, the majority of the money you put into the Utah economy is going to find its way into the hands of the LDS and its political cronies. It doesn't make sense to me, and even seems pretty counterproductive in terms of that decision being repeated on a larger social scale. So while I may just be standing over here going "DURR, UTAH, DURPA DURP!", that doesn't mean that what I'm saying is without point or merit.

I'd wager to say that by being here, and not supporting the LDS and etc, it gives you a better chance to dilute their power.  What's one voice in an thousand, though, right?  By my count, there is at least a half dozen Discordians in Utah, and most of the youth I talk to are no longer buying the old stories from the LDS, with this new age of instant information and discussion.  Things will not change over night, but LDS is already a minority in it's home city.  Lot of people are tired of the old, and are waiting for one or two people to stand up and change something.

So, forgive me for not being part of the hive mind wherever you live and feel it's all wonderful and I can't stand to possibly be the unique underdog in my community.  I'm sorry I am not not going along with the masses of the cattle class like you clearly are, and obviously, this makes me pretty stupid.  I mean, if you don't live somewhere where everyone thinks like you, you are a fool, right?  Blend in, sit down, and try not to act up too much, that's unseemly!

Utah was far from my first choice.  But you know what?  Now that I am here, I am making the most of it, and if I have to work harder to change things up, then so be it.  Never let it be said I backed down from a challenge because the crowd was against me.

OKM is for rants, yes, but as near as I can tell, it is not for shitting on other people on the boards, it is about discussion and venting off some steam.  Maybe offer some constructive criticism.  Just a flat, 'you are a stupid 'twunt' (whatever that word is)' doesn't help anything along.  But seeing as people are not falling in lockstep with your ideas, I guess we'll just have to hear it.  Bring on the wit, if you can.

[Eater of Clowns]

 

[LMNO]

I said it to ECH, and I'll say it to you:

hike your panties up.


PD.com was re-birthed in the fires of vitriol and rage. OKM was the heart of this. You really can't tell the guy who helped wrest control to own the site how OKM "should" be.

I mean, you CAN, but you'll look like an idiot. 

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

OKM has always been pretty no-holds-barred, IME. This isn't Bring & Brag... it's OR KILL ME.

The name kind of says it all. Post a rant; hope for a dialogue. It's not the Student Showcase Parade for General Applause and Backpatting.

[cavehamster]

Fine, but attacking the rant seems like a lot better thing to do than blindly attacking the person, just because.

Perhaps I am a moron that deserves to be personally attacked, though, and can't see this.  Whatever.

[LMNO]

Damn, kid, if someone takes a swing, then cowboy up and handle it.

[Cain]

EEEET IS ALL SO UNFAIR, NON?
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[cavehamster]

EEEET IS ALL SO UNFAIR, NON?
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Hahahaha

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Fine, but attacking the rant seems like a lot better thing to do than blindly attacking the person, just because.

Perhaps I am a moron that deserves to be personally attacked, though, and can't see this.  Whatever.

You are posting in OR KILL ME

I am posting an opinion, OR KILL ME

Maybe you are missing the KILL ME part.

[cavehamster]

Fine, but attacking the rant seems like a lot better thing to do than blindly attacking the person, just because.

Perhaps I am a moron that deserves to be personally attacked, though, and can't see this.  Whatever.

You are posting in OR KILL ME

I am posting an opinion, OR KILL ME

Maybe you are missing the KILL ME part.

This is true.  Carry on then.

[Doktor Howl]

Fine, but attacking the rant seems like a lot better thing to do than blindly attacking the person, just because.

Perhaps I am a moron that deserves to be personally attacked, though, and can't see this.  Whatever.

You are posting in OR KILL ME

I am posting an opinion, OR KILL ME

Maybe you are missing the KILL ME part.

Funny thing:  It's been 8 years, and almost nobody gets "Or Kill Me".  When I realized that, I decided to kill the TGRR account.  It's impossible to accomplish anything as a Holy Man, anymore.  Now I just want to, you know, destroy civilization.

[East Coast Hustle]

you're improving. that actually made me chuckle out loud.

however, while OKM is for rants, it's for rants posted with the understanding that they are open to full-blown criticism and brutal honesty and no pulled punches is the way it's always been in OKM. I honestly can't imagine why anyone sane and progressive would choose to live in Utah and to support the kind of people that run that place with their money. Eventually, the majority of the money you put into the Utah economy is going to find its way into the hands of the LDS and its political cronies. It doesn't make sense to me, and even seems pretty counterproductive in terms of that decision being repeated on a larger social scale. So while I may just be standing over here going "DURR, UTAH, DURPA DURP!", that doesn't mean that what I'm saying is without point or merit.

well i didn't start playing the game of a fuck stick until you started being rude to badge and myself.

every state has its charms (cept. Nebraska  ) and it's downfalls.

let's get this straight: YOU attacked ME for my comment to Badges. I had in no way conflated the two of you previous to that. I think you called me a "cockhead", or something like that.

and one more thing, and this isn't an attack on where you live, just the facts as I see them: Nebraska has WAY more going for it than Utah. Omaha is 4 times the city that SLC is in every metric that matters to me. Better bars, better food, better cultural opportunites, hotter girls, friendlier citizens, less intrusive authorities, more progressive social policies, better music scene, etc. Nebraska has alot of water in it, which is a big plus, and even seems to contain fewer garden-variety evangelical nutjobs than all of the surrounding states. Granted, the stuff you'll see from I-80 wouldn't give you that impression of the place, but I've spent plenty of time there and driven through most of the major highways in the state and if I were ever going to move to a non-coastal state that'd be the one.

[East Coast Hustle]

you're improving. that actually made me chuckle out loud.

however, while OKM is for rants, it's for rants posted with the understanding that they are open to full-blown criticism and brutal honesty and no pulled punches is the way it's always been in OKM. I honestly can't imagine why anyone sane and progressive would choose to live in Utah and to support the kind of people that run that place with their money. Eventually, the majority of the money you put into the Utah economy is going to find its way into the hands of the LDS and its political cronies. It doesn't make sense to me, and even seems pretty counterproductive in terms of that decision being repeated on a larger social scale. So while I may just be standing over here going "DURR, UTAH, DURPA DURP!", that doesn't mean that what I'm saying is without point or merit.

I'd wager to say that by being here, and not supporting the LDS and etc, it gives you a better chance to dilute their power.  What's one voice in an thousand, though, right?  By my count, there is at least a half dozen Discordians in Utah, and most of the youth I talk to are no longer buying the old stories from the LDS, with this new age of instant information and discussion.  Things will not change over night, but LDS is already a minority in it's home city.  Lot of people are tired of the old, and are waiting for one or two people to stand up and change something.

So, forgive me for not being part of the hive mind wherever you live and feel it's all wonderful and I can't stand to possibly be the unique underdog in my community.  I'm sorry I am not not going along with the masses of the cattle class like you clearly are, and obviously, this makes me pretty stupid.  I mean, if you don't live somewhere where everyone thinks like you, you are a fool, right?  Blend in, sit down, and try not to act up too much, that's unseemly!

Utah was far from my first choice.  But you know what?  Now that I am here, I am making the most of it, and if I have to work harder to change things up, then so be it.  Never let it be said I backed down from a challenge because the crowd was against me.

OKM is for rants, yes, but as near as I can tell, it is not for shitting on other people on the boards, it is about discussion and venting off some steam.  Maybe offer some constructive criticism.  Just a flat, 'you are a stupid 'twunt' (whatever that word is)' doesn't help anything along.  But seeing as people are not falling in lockstep with your ideas, I guess we'll just have to hear it.  Bring on the wit, if you can.

you're missing a very important piece of the puzzle, which is that the LDS doesn't care about the actual demographics of Utah and it doesn't have to. IT. OWNS. FUCKING. EVERYTHING. And if it doesn't, that's only because it doesn't want it. You're talking about one of the largest and wealthiest corporations on earth, and that's where their social and political power comes from, not whether or not their hillbilly state is full of more or less hillbillies than it was 10 years ago.

Your bizarre attempt to connect my stance on the matter to an attitude of "hive mindedness" or a call to "blend in and sit down" is both baseless and retarded, and will be given no further consideration.

[Z³]

every state has its charms (cept. Nebraska  ) and it's downfalls.

Nebraska is dirt fucking cheap, and the economy here is pretty good atm.
Its a boring, but somewhat reliable, state. Its charm is in its mediocrity.

But I really only speak for Omaha and Lincoln, the rest of this state is a vast wasteland of corn.
I'd rather live here than any other midwestern state, although I might be willing to give Colorado another shot.

[-Kel-]

every state has its charms (cept. Nebraska  ) and it's downfalls.

Nebraska is dirt fucking cheap, and the economy here is pretty good atm.
Its a boring, but somewhat reliable, state. Its charm is in its mediocrity.

But I really only speak for Omaha and Lincoln, the rest of this state is a vast wasteland of corn.
I'd rather live here than any other midwestern state, although I might be willing to give Colorado another shot.

oh shit, im sorry. hehehe. totally pulled an arbitrary state for the joke.