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YUOR APPLESAUCE IS MADE OF CORN!

Started by Shibboleet The Annihilator, March 25, 2010, 05:24:40 PM

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Suu

Quote from: Sigmatic on March 26, 2010, 08:28:26 PM
You just inspired me to bake a pizza in a cast iron pan.

That's going to be wet dream-inspiring. Beware.
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Dimocritus

Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on March 25, 2010, 07:45:03 PM
High Fructose Corn Syrup is good for you!

I saw a commercial several days ago that informed me of this, so it must be true.

Ha, found them:

http://www.youtube.com/user/TrueChristianDOTcom#p/u/4/EEbRxTOyGf0

http://www.youtube.com/user/TrueChristianDOTcom#p/u/3/KVsgXPt564Q

http://www.youtube.com/user/TrueChristianDOTcom#p/u/2/7BJJGzbN3fg

The third one is the one I saw.

This is just... It's...  :asplode:

Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 26, 2010, 09:17:17 AM
I have the home address of the guy who runs the website mentioned in that ad.  Anybody want it?

Yes. Wouldn't everybody?
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Dimocritus

Quote from: Requia ☣ on March 26, 2010, 11:12:40 PM
Pace, Stanley
      4700 Nantucket Ct.
      Flower Mound, TX 75022
      United States

Google maps confirms that this is a private residence, complete with private swimming pool.  Looks like the guy is a partner at a consulting firm.

Let's start writing letters! Yeah!
HOUSE OF GABCab ~ "caecus plumbum caecus"

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I don't think that publicly posting the home address of someone because you don't like their commercials is a good idea. Also, this is Apple Talk, not OMF, which means it's indexed and will show up in Google searches.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Doktor Howl

Quote from: Calamity Nigel on March 27, 2010, 04:56:32 PM
I don't think that publicly posting the home address of someone because you don't like their commercials is a good idea. Also, this is Apple Talk, not OMF, which means it's indexed and will show up in Google searches.

Agreed, but not actually against the rules.  Pending a decision from ECH (he's the one with his name on the joint, after all), I'm going to leave the posts but move the thread.
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Bruno

Can anybody find any research that indicates that HFCS is worse for you than table sugar.

I looked around, and all the legitimate science I could find seemed to indicate that there is no significant difference.

Also, I think the main reason that we use so much HFCS here in America is because it's cheaper due to high sugar tariff and corn subsidies.
Formerly something else...

Bruno

Well, I found this... thanks to a link from GLP  :oops:


Princeton researchers find that high-fructose corn syrup prompts considerably more weight gain

http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/

Still looking for the actual research papers.
Formerly something else...

BADGE OF HONOR

Afaik it's harder for your body to convert fructose into useable energy than other kinds of sugar so it tends to go straight to fat.  I have no evidence for this though.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

I haven't found any really sound evidence that indicates fructose is metabolized in a way that makes it inherently more harmful than sucrose. I think that the problem with it is that it's a corn byproduct and gets put in EVERYTHING simply because corn is a subsidized crop and our farmers grow way too much of it. So a lot of foods that didn't formerly have sugar in them now do, which means that almost everyone in the US is consuming more sugar than ever, by default. School lunches are absolutely horrendous in that regard, and pretty much any kind of prepared food is now sweetened, which is really just gross. It really bugs me with bread. I can either spend $4/loaf on hippie bread, or I can make my own, because the "regular" cheap whole-wheat breads are all sweetened to the hilt and are just nasty with savory sandwich -makings.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Jasper

http://www.examiner.com/x-18928-Richmond-Grandparenting-Examiner~y2010m3d26-Princeton-study-results-confirm-dangers-of-high-fructose-corn-syrup-sweetener

QuoteAccording to a recent Princeton University research study, they have determined that all sweeteners are not equal when it comes to weight gain. The results of their study conclude that consumption of high-fructose corn syrup will lead to more weight gain than access to regular table sugar, even when overall caloric intake is the same.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Sigmatic on March 27, 2010, 11:03:32 PM
http://www.examiner.com/x-18928-Richmond-Grandparenting-Examiner~y2010m3d26-Princeton-study-results-confirm-dangers-of-high-fructose-corn-syrup-sweetener

QuoteAccording to a recent Princeton University research study, they have determined that all sweeteners are not equal when it comes to weight gain. The results of their study conclude that consumption of high-fructose corn syrup will lead to more weight gain than access to regular table sugar, even when overall caloric intake is the same.

I saw that, but I also saw that the study was heavily criticized, by natural-foods advocates, as being so severely flawed that they could not use it to support their own arguments.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Jasper

Oh, lame.  Shame on me for assuming Princeton wasn't complete rubbish.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2010/03/high-fructose-corn-syrup-hfcs-sugar-princeton-study.html
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_shots/2010/03/hfcs-high-fructose-corn-syrup-sugar-princeton-study.html
http://www.foodpolitics.com/2010/03/hfcs-makes-rats-fat/
http://www.sparkpeople.com/resource/nutrition_articles.asp?id=486

Now, I'm not saying that I'm sold on HFCS being no worse for you than refined table sugar, just that I haven't found any really sound evidence. I wish there was, simply so that it would stop being put in everyfuckingthing because it's gross. At the same time, I suspect that the increase in the amount of sugar and processed foods we consume, in general, is a lot more responsible for American obesity than just the replacement of sugar with HFCS in many foods.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Sigmatic on March 27, 2010, 11:38:18 PM
Oh, lame.  Shame on me for assuming Princeton wasn't complete rubbish.

You'd like to hope they wouldn't release a study that was so poorly conducted, considering their reputation. Or, more to the point, that their researchers would be educated to conduct their studies more rigorously.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Jasper

It's sad, but a lot of research is not as rigorous as it could be.

Just read this

http://www.artofdrink.com/2008/10/hfcs-research.php

And it cites a fair number of research articles that challenge a lot of my previous prejudices about HFCS.

I still don't like HFCS, I like the taste of "real" sugar more.