Teabaggers start attacking people, breaking windows, to protest health care

[Jenne]

I know it's part of your brilliance, and typical of the site, but it also tends to get the worst reactions from me, as well as others.  Yeah, I may have derailed things slightly, you put me on the defensive though and now I have to find some value in my derailing.  Which I did.  One of the things which defines the teabaggers is that they are not homogenous.  You can't say much that is true of all tea baggers.  Some are racists, some are not, some are anti abortion fanatics, some are not.  They don't really agree on all that much aside from that things are not going well in the country and it is the democrats fault.

Saying that it is stupid to point out that it's not code for jim crow to all of them could just mean "yeah, duh, I know they aren't homogenous" but the way you put it doesn't make that clear.  It is one of the most common mistakes people make about the teaparty, because most political movements have been homogenous, at least to a much greater degree, especcially the ones that get to the point of breaking windows.

I'm no so sure of that.  I thought revolutions ran on widespread unease.  It only has to all go the same direction for a little while.  Then, all the factions can go back to being too weak to be a threat...

Yes, we haven't really had a revolution in the us though.  We've had fairly easily identified social movements, Sometimes they would work together, but they were still identifiable as their component parts.

The 60's as an example, there were feminists, communists, black activists, etc, and they would often work together for a common goal against a common enemy, but they were organized into discrete groups.  The teaparty isn't organized into discrete groups, but it's also not a discrete group in itself because they don't actually have one unified goal.

Oh but I think they do:  to disrupt any sort of legislation going at this point in time.  So even though their signs are often contradictory to not only their purpose but also their rhetoric, their main goal is totally obvious.  They show up to protest anywhere a Democrat or Obama may be, and against any current legislation going through, regardless of whether it's slashing the budget or not.  The Teabaggers outside NASA in Florida this week were a great example of this.  They were bitching about losing the jobs in the aerospace industry, and that I can get behind.  It's their platform that gave me horrormirth as THIS is usually a group who wants to protest spending.

Just not when it's spending for their OWN BACKYARDS.

And I think that's the overarching message, all in all.  It's OK to take away funding for some other poor schmuck, just not their pet projects/peccadilloes.

As evidenced by the "Keep Your Gov't Out of My Medicare" signage early on...

[Doktor Howl]

Teabagger of the day:  Valerie Shirk.  10 kids, takes them all to the teabagger rally.  Turns out that they're all on government insurance/assistance, because they can't afford that many kids.  They had them anyway.  Asked why she can oppose social programs when she's on one, she replied "Each of my kids is a blessing."

LOL HYPOCRISY.

Link to be posted when I get to my laptop.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

the thing nobody really gets, though, that Teabaggers as a group uniquely understand, is that democracy is a joke. No one really wants "The will of the people"; it's worse than a monarchy! Taxation with representation is really not enough.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Teabagger of the day:  Valerie Shirk.  10 kids, takes them all to the teabagger rally.  Turns out that they're all on government insurance/assistance, because they can't afford that many kids.  They had them anyway.  Asked why she can oppose social programs when she's on one, she replied "Each of my kids is a blessing."

LOL HYPOCRISY.

Link to be posted when I get to my laptop.

Dok

I will say one thing that I realized a few years ago

Everyone makes exceptions for themselves. Everyone.

So do I, I guarantee it. I'm just blind to my own exceptions.

[Doktor Howl]

Teabagger of the day:  Valerie Shirk.  10 kids, takes them all to the teabagger rally.  Turns out that they're all on government insurance/assistance, because they can't afford that many kids.  They had them anyway.  Asked why she can oppose social programs when she's on one, she replied "Each of my kids is a blessing."

LOL HYPOCRISY.

Link to be posted when I get to my laptop.

Dok

I will say one thing that I realized a few years ago

Everyone makes exceptions for themselves. Everyone.

So do I, I guarantee it. I'm just blind to my own exceptions.

Yes, but how can anyone be THAT blind?  Her listed reason for 10 kids is that "I wanted them".

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Teabagger of the day:  Valerie Shirk.  10 kids, takes them all to the teabagger rally.  Turns out that they're all on government insurance/assistance, because they can't afford that many kids.  They had them anyway.  Asked why she can oppose social programs when she's on one, she replied "Each of my kids is a blessing."

LOL HYPOCRISY.

Link to be posted when I get to my laptop.

Dok

I will say one thing that I realized a few years ago

Everyone makes exceptions for themselves. Everyone.

So do I, I guarantee it. I'm just blind to my own exceptions.

Yes, but how can anyone be THAT blind?  Her listed reason for 10 kids is that "I wanted them".

Oh, that's because some people are also STUPID.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

... as evidenced by actually wanting 10 kids. Fuck. She obviously didn't have enough intellect to do anything ELSE with her life.

[Jasper]

I snickered.

But yeah, everyone makes exceptions for themselves.  Also known as the fundamental attribution error.  Well-established psychology.

Democracy is a joke because of the type of voting, I believe.  An approval vote would make the system more representative of the country's wishes.

[Thurnez Isa]

Teabagger of the day:  Valerie Shirk.  10 kids, takes them all to the teabagger rally.  Turns out that they're all on government insurance/assistance, because they can't afford that many kids.  They had them anyway.  Asked why she can oppose social programs when she's on one, she replied "Each of my kids is a blessing."

LOL HYPOCRISY.

Link to be posted when I get to my laptop.

I heard that story too
Each of her kids are a "blessing"
everyone elses kids are a pile of shit

[wudgar]

The wing-nut right have really lost their minds. The blatant lies and hypocrisy levels have gone through the roof. If they do win big in November and 2012, who is going to spoon-feed them when things go wrong?

[Triple Zero]

the thing nobody really gets, though, that Teabaggers as a group uniquely understand, is that democracy is a joke. No one really wants "The will of the people"; it's worse than a monarchy! Taxation with representation is really not enough.

What if, say, two decades or so ago, you'd have had some good protection against corporate lobbying in the government/senate?

Partially the "will of the people" is heavily influenced by corporate media. Recently I read a blogpost describing (American) corporations as "amoral entities". Not immoral, but amoral. Cause partially, democracy requires people having morals. Otherwise it turns into a hard and cold game theory game. Now the people, they have morals, even the stupid ones, even the fundies (they have some I disagree with), but if they get fed all sorts of weird confusing populistic lies by Fox etc it all gets muddled up.

[LMNO]

I'll say it here, repost in the memebomb thread:

"Who controls the will of the people?"

[Kai]

I'll say it here, repost in the memebomb thread:

"Who controls the will of the people?"

Who runs television brodcasting?

[Jenne]

I'll say it here, repost in the memebomb thread:

"Who controls the will of the people?"

Who runs television brodcasting?

Who bites the sounds?

[Remington]

I'll say it here, repost in the memebomb thread:

"Who controls the will of the people?"

Who runs television brodcasting?

Who bites the sounds?

Who can yell the loudest?