A Clarification:

[Doktor Howl]

Another example of how TGRR and Dok are different. 

not that I don't love Dok...


-insert foot in mouth-

November 1st.

[Freeky]

Another example of how TGRR and Dok are different. 

not that I don't love Dok...


-insert foot in mouth-

November 1st.

I was referring to OP, not you quitting smoking.

[Doktor Howl]

Another example of how TGRR and Dok are different. 

not that I don't love Dok...


-insert foot in mouth-

November 1st.

I was referring to OP, not you quitting smoking.

Oh.  Yeah, TGRR actually wanted people to get better and be more free.

[Freeky]

Yeah.

[Doktor Howl]

Yeah.

That sort of stupidity is why he died, crushed to death beneath the sheer weight of the idiots he was trying to save.  Boo hoo hoo, so sad.

Me, I just want to watch the monkeys do their thing, until they are all gone.

[Freeky]

As a realist, I know that there is no helping people who don't want to be saved.

But I want to believe.

[Doktor Howl]

As a realist, I know that there is no helping people who don't want to be saved.

But I want to believe.

Then believe in the tooth fairy.  It's less dangerous.

[Freeky]

As a realist, I know that there is no helping people who don't want to be saved.

But I want to believe.

Then believe in the tooth fairy.  It's less dangerous.

<-- wailing and gnashing of teeth.

[Richter]

There's no saving anyone else, Dok.  At best we can put out the means, and offer a hand, but from there it's down to the individual to haul their own ass out.  No use mentioning the scum who keep insisting they CAN be saved with just ONE MORE HANDOUT.  Bodhisatvas will only inherit a planet full of miserable entitled shitheads, then they too will have to admit some people are a waste, and move on. 

[Freeky]

Richter, you make a good point. But what about those who really DO need that one lat handout, because their last one was so many time periods ago, and they weren't ready, weren't BIPEDAL enough for it? There are those who can't be helped, and those who can, and quite often they are one and the same. You just have to catch them ready for it.

[Richter]

Then we need a dating service between them and the sucker that's born every minute.

On serious note; has to fall to call it like you see it.  Imperfect, but shit, when has this race done anything clean and fair?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

bump

[AFK]

This was, well, is a good thread. 

[Captain Utopia]

Apparently, at least one or two of you have misunderstood everything I've tried
to say for the last few years.  You've missed the point, so I guess I'm gonna
have to explain my position in small words.  Tell me if I'm typing this too fast
for you.

Look, when I bitched about the republic being dead, and freedom being a dying
art, I wasn't telling you to ACCEPT these hideous truths!  I wasn't telling you
to give up, and roll into a fetal ball in the corner!  Goddammit, you'd BETTER
holler when the rock hits you, because when you're dead, you'll shut up like
hell!

And when I wrote "or kill me", just what the fuck did you think I was trying to
say?  Well, let me tell you one last hideous truth...there IS freedom, but
nobody is going to give it to you.  Not your rich parents. Not your
"government" (har har!).  Your military isn't fighting for your freedom
(and if you think they are, boy do I have a real estate deal for you!).

No, you'll just have to take it for yourself, just like those asstards back in the 18th century.  And if they try to stop you, you have to kick them in the jimmy.  And you'll have to kick them until they let you have your freedom, or until they kill you.  And until they do, you'd better live a life WORTHY of a free person!  Don't just eat that cheeseburger, eat the HELL out of it! Go nuts!  Kick shit over, have a blast, and enjoy what little time you get before they bring the hammer down on you!

Shit, do you think they're gonna let me get away with MY shit forever?  They've
already tried to lock me up twice, and three times is a charm.  No, one day I'll
disappear...I'll just stop showing up, and you'll wonder why for a little while,
and then you'll get back to bickering about music, etc, and I'll fade from your
memory.  Just another foul-mouthed thug from the Southwest, who tried to bring
back the Wild West and failed.

Until the day they come for YOU.  Oh, and they WILL.  Maybe not Bush and his
crew...they're on their last legs.  But maybe Hillary and HER crew...you ARE a disruptive bunch, and you'll never make it on Oprah.  So maybe you'll be shunted off to a re-education camp in New Hampshire, where you'll be beaten like a rat every day, for your own good.

And on THAT day, friends, you'll wish you'd listened.  You'll wish you'd grabbed
that ephemeral thing we call "freedom" by the neck and choked the shit out of
it.  You'll wish you realized earlier what you stood to lose.  Well, at first. 
In a month or so, you'll start responding to the therapy, and you'll wonder what
all the fuss was about.  The sun will shine down onto your grey pajamas, and
even the mud of the camp recreation area will look warm and inviting.  You'll
realize that They really do love you, even when you're bad.  And you love them. 
You love Big Brother.

Bang.

Or Kill Me.

While people are busy selling Freedom^tm, just taking it feels like stealing.