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E.O.T.

#840
July 06, 2012, 12:10:29 AM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on July 02, 2012, 10:58:19 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on July 01, 2012, 09:21:10 PM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on July 01, 2012, 09:18:58 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on July 01, 2012, 09:01:47 PM


GO FIGURE

          indiana would respond to the feds with this http://posttrib.suntimes.com/news/13517720-418/indiana-sends-congress-illegal-immigration-tab.html

QUOTE:

          INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Indiana's budget director calculates illegal immigrants have cost Indiana $130.9 million.

Budget Director Adam Horst sent Congress a bill for the amount Friday as required under Indiana's illegal immigration law passed last year by the General Assembly.

Congress is not expected to act on the request, however.

Indiana's law was modeled on the 2010 Arizona illegal immigration bill whose key provisions were struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday. Indiana's law also is being challenged in court.

Horst estimated $110.6 million of the state's illegal immigrant costs have been for K-12 education. He estimated prison costs at $12.3 million and welfare costs at nearly $8 million.

HOW

          to they account for these numbers?

That's a good question, and it's also curious that they have calculated cost but not income, as it's well-documented that "illegal" residents bring states more income than they cost them.

SAME THING!

          how does one track what's undocumented?

It's surprisingly easy to track income taxes from undocumented immigrants, for two reasons; one, the most common form of social security fraud is using a stolen number to pay taxes, and two, the IRS has a form that a surprisingly high number of undocumented resident workers voluntarily use to pay taxes with because they want to be participants in the American system. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2017113852_immigtaxes29.html http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-16/news/31199931_1_residency-and-taxpaying-illegal-immigrants-taxation-and-economic-policy http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/just-facts/unauthorized-immigrants-pay-taxes-too

That's the direct income; it's harder to quantify the indirect income they generate by keeping afloat certain industries that are dependent on their labor (check out the farm labor crises in Georgia and Kansas), and also by stimulating our economy by being consumers. Now that immigration flow has reversed, unless something happens to replace it we're going to start seeing some direct and unpleasant economic effects of population decline on an economy that is structured on growth.

As an aside, were you aware that, contrary to popular belief among the pundit crowd, most undocumented residents didn't get here by sneaking across the border, but came on student, travel, or work visas, and just didn't leave after they expired?

THANKS, INTERWEBS DEMONESS,

          sorry it took so long for me to get to these, but every time i get to the bar where i can use their wifi, you (nigel) take over my laptop thing (THANK YOU ALTY!!! x 1000000000000000) and burn the battery out!!

ON THE

          economic end of revenue, these articles present some serious mismanagement or WTF. i still have lots of questions and we need to powow. also, as we were discussing the cause and effect occurrence of U.S. historical measures addressing immigration laws, we're experiencing one of those periods, it would seem (!?). what these articles say is that even more tax paying u.s. residents than we knew about are contributing to revenue, yet they're receiving EVEN LESS of the benefits of the average U.S. citizen. which is grounds for a revolution itself. what none of these articles focus on, is the fact that everyone really is stressing out about jobs and work availability, yet somewhere in that gap between the I.R.S. and all the rest of federal f$ckery, we have no foundational viewpoint for production/ real jobs vs. people needing them. those "undocumented" workers are even more voices silenced about how the feds are using that revenue.

THESE ARTICLES

          however, don't tell me how indiana is collecting this info, if in fact the I.R.S. is somehow above sharing their revenue info outside of their department interest.

SO WHERE

          on the one hand, i still have lots of questions, on the other, i feel i need a typewriter with surface to air missile capability.
"a good fight justifies any cause"

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#841
July 06, 2012, 07:38:06 AM
YOU ARE WELCOME

OMG I AM GOING TO BED NOW SEE YOU TOMORROW.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

tyrannosaurus vex

#842
July 08, 2012, 08:13:35 AM
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#843
July 08, 2012, 07:24:19 PM
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

E.O.T.

#844
July 08, 2012, 11:23:58 PM


http://www.advocate.com/politics/2012/07/08/jan-brewer-asks-supreme-court-strip-benefits-same-sex-partners

          Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn a ruling which provides  domestic-partner benefits to same-sex partners of state employees.
"a good fight justifies any cause"

Anna Mae Bollocks

#845
July 08, 2012, 11:30:16 PM
Scantily-Clad Inspector of Gigantic and Unnecessary Cashews, Texas Division

Juana

#846
July 09, 2012, 12:56:11 AM
If that. I expect some sort of half-hearted apology and vague promises that never come to fruition.
Quote from: E.O.T. on July 08, 2012, 11:23:58 PM


http://www.advocate.com/politics/2012/07/08/jan-brewer-asks-supreme-court-strip-benefits-same-sex-partners

          Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn a ruling which provides  domestic-partner benefits to same-sex partners of state employees.
I have lost the ability to can with that woman.
"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."

E.O.T.

#847
July 09, 2012, 01:08:57 AM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on July 09, 2012, 12:56:11 AM
If that. I expect some sort of half-hearted apology and vague promises that never come to fruition.
Quote from: E.O.T. on July 08, 2012, 11:23:58 PM


http://www.advocate.com/politics/2012/07/08/jan-brewer-asks-supreme-court-strip-benefits-same-sex-partners

          Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn a ruling which provides  domestic-partner benefits to same-sex partners of state employees.
I have lost the ability to can with that woman.

I WANT TO MARRY HER

          because i'm convinced she's actually quentin crisp pulling off one of the world's top five trolls, successfully. and she's beautiful. which gives quentin away, right there.
"a good fight justifies any cause"

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#848
July 09, 2012, 01:32:59 AM
Quote from: E.O.T. on July 09, 2012, 01:08:57 AM
Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on July 09, 2012, 12:56:11 AM
If that. I expect some sort of half-hearted apology and vague promises that never come to fruition.
Quote from: E.O.T. on July 08, 2012, 11:23:58 PM


http://www.advocate.com/politics/2012/07/08/jan-brewer-asks-supreme-court-strip-benefits-same-sex-partners

          Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer is asking the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn a ruling which provides  domestic-partner benefits to same-sex partners of state employees.
I have lost the ability to can with that woman.

I WANT TO MARRY HER

          because i'm convinced she's actually quentin crisp pulling off one of the world's top five trolls, successfully. and she's beautiful. which gives quentin away, right there.

:lulz: That certainly makes me view her in a different light.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

inode_buddha

#849
July 22, 2012, 11:30:37 PM
C|N>K

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#850
July 22, 2012, 11:35:18 PM
Quote from: inode_buddha on July 22, 2012, 11:30:37 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/17/obama-birth-record-definitely-fraudulent-sheriff-joe-arpaio-says

Sheriff Joe says its fraudulent. I wonder if he can prove it?

Is he drifting into dementia, or does he really think that if he just keeps insisting, someone will believe him?  :lulz:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

The Good Reverend Roger

#851
July 23, 2012, 12:10:08 AM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on July 22, 2012, 11:35:18 PM
Quote from: inode_buddha on July 22, 2012, 11:30:37 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/17/obama-birth-record-definitely-fraudulent-sheriff-joe-arpaio-says

Sheriff Joe says its fraudulent. I wonder if he can prove it?

Is he drifting into dementia, or does he really think that if he just keeps insisting, someone will believe him?  :lulz:

Neither.  He's pandering to the Terrified White People Party.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

inode_buddha

#852
July 23, 2012, 02:53:22 AM
Quote from: PROFOUNDLY RETARDED CHARLIE MANSON on July 22, 2012, 11:35:18 PM
Quote from: inode_buddha on July 22, 2012, 11:30:37 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/17/obama-birth-record-definitely-fraudulent-sheriff-joe-arpaio-says

Sheriff Joe says its fraudulent. I wonder if he can prove it?

Is he drifting into dementia, or does he really think that if he just keeps insisting, someone will believe him?  :lulz:

Unfortunately I know of many who would believe him regardless. The sort of people who will refuse to believe the evidence no matter what -"there must be something wrong with it" and the logical fallacies of "purity" etc etc... :vom:
C|N>K

The Good Reverend Roger

#853
August 26, 2012, 06:01:44 PM
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

tyrannosaurus vex

#854
August 26, 2012, 06:39:03 PM
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.
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