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Started by Dysnomia, April 28, 2010, 06:22:18 AM

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Suu: what do you think of the costumes?   :lulz:



Everyone else: What do you all think?
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 :?  haven't seen it? don't wanna?

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I suppose there's a reason for someone to havea Mongolian bow in medieval Britain?
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Rumckle

I think in that TV series he brought his bow back with him from the crusades. IIRC
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Quote from: Rumckle on April 28, 2010, 11:46:34 AM
I think in that TV series he brought his bow back with him from the crusades. IIRC

At least they give a reason for the inconsistency. I don't recall anything in the legend about him fighting mongols though.
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I'll have to read up on styles of 10-1200's Saracen bow styles, the design looks a bit farther east.  Cross pollination in gear happened though, so I'll give them that much.

Costumes I'm letting Suu take.
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Cramulus

what are we talkinga bout? Is this a movie or something?


also: historical accuracy, historical shmaccuracy

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Quote from: Cramulus on April 28, 2010, 03:16:20 PM
what are we talkinga bout? Is this a movie or something?


New Movie with Russell Crow, Ridley Scott directing.  Essentially, the "Robin Hood: Origins" story.


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Looks like an interesting movie.  I liked Gladiator and Ridley Scott has produced some pretty good movies and TV shows.  I think he was behind Numb3rs IIRC. 
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Suu

Please to note: He also has a scimitar. Obvious Eastern kit is obvious. Why? Robin Hood fought in the Crusades, that's why. Spoils of war from the Arabs and Turks.

There was enough trade going on throughout Europe that could have easily brought Eastern designs into use, however, into England is a bit different, because it would have had to travel quite far and England was always "behind the times" when it came to things such as weaponry and clothing until the Italians took over most of the trade from the Silk Road. At the time of Robin Hood (12th-13th century) the Byzantine Empire was still the stronghold of Eastern trade and a lot of goods didn't make it too far past the Holy Roman Empire. They were greedy and they didn't want the good stuff getting far. However, it's still not impossible, especially for Crusaders.

As for the clothing, the BBC version of Robin Hood is actually quite good sans the decorative aspect of things. Pullover jerkins were definitely in use as a thin armor, that leather bog coat should probably go, and the boots probably wouldn't have pullover, they should be closed by buckles or ties and wrapped tightly with wool, linen, or leather to support the ankle and help keep your feet dry in the damp woods. Other than that, not enough fabric. They're wearing early Renaissance cuts instead of something more to the correct time period. Their pants are very incorrect, should be hose or trewes and braies.

See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1100%E2%80%931200_in_fashion

Tunics were larger and less tailored. They were still following Roman patterns (and continued to do so well into the 1500s in some places) and didn't have the knowledge of pattern drafting yet. It even took Italy another 200 years to get it.
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...and don't even get me started on the movie. I'm going for pretty shinies, like Gladiator. I'm turning off the accuracy alarm when I go in to see it, because I accidentally left it on when I saw Clash of the Titans.
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Quote from: Suu on April 28, 2010, 03:29:23 PMI accidentally left it on when I saw Clash of the Titans.

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