Yes we're horrible toxic people, because this is 2020's Mental Illness Olympics, and the winners get a free pass on giving life-threatening advice with the bonus of having zero accountability for their shit behaviour.
Quote from: Kai on May 03, 2010, 08:16:59 pmQuote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2010, 08:14:39 pmQuote from: Kai on May 03, 2010, 08:05:35 pmQuote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2010, 07:53:17 pmQuote from: Kai on May 03, 2010, 07:51:44 pmDiscordianism is also a monkey trap.Right you are.So, let's just all grab bananas, masturbate for the crowd, and throw poop.Since there's no way out, and it's all hopeless, and we're not any different.Why am I here, again? There are easier ways to be a monkey.I didn't say what you posted. If, by your OP, these identifications are "monkey traps", then identifying as Discordian is also a monkey trap. Unless, of course, identifying as Discordian is not the same as any other identity.It isn't, as has already been pointed out.When done properly, anyway. I don't pretend that Discordianism is a panacea. It is not a system by which all monkeys can stand upright if only they're pure enough. No, Discordianism is a tool by which you CAN help yourself stand upright, if you have the inclination to do so.Okay. So, I also identify as a Unitarian Universalist, Religious Naturalist and Insect Systematist. How are those things incompatible with Discordianism? Which one of those do you DO, and which do you base your self-worth and/or personal existence on?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2010, 08:14:39 pmQuote from: Kai on May 03, 2010, 08:05:35 pmQuote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2010, 07:53:17 pmQuote from: Kai on May 03, 2010, 07:51:44 pmDiscordianism is also a monkey trap.Right you are.So, let's just all grab bananas, masturbate for the crowd, and throw poop.Since there's no way out, and it's all hopeless, and we're not any different.Why am I here, again? There are easier ways to be a monkey.I didn't say what you posted. If, by your OP, these identifications are "monkey traps", then identifying as Discordian is also a monkey trap. Unless, of course, identifying as Discordian is not the same as any other identity.It isn't, as has already been pointed out.When done properly, anyway. I don't pretend that Discordianism is a panacea. It is not a system by which all monkeys can stand upright if only they're pure enough. No, Discordianism is a tool by which you CAN help yourself stand upright, if you have the inclination to do so.Okay. So, I also identify as a Unitarian Universalist, Religious Naturalist and Insect Systematist. How are those things incompatible with Discordianism?
Quote from: Kai on May 03, 2010, 08:05:35 pmQuote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2010, 07:53:17 pmQuote from: Kai on May 03, 2010, 07:51:44 pmDiscordianism is also a monkey trap.Right you are.So, let's just all grab bananas, masturbate for the crowd, and throw poop.Since there's no way out, and it's all hopeless, and we're not any different.Why am I here, again? There are easier ways to be a monkey.I didn't say what you posted. If, by your OP, these identifications are "monkey traps", then identifying as Discordian is also a monkey trap. Unless, of course, identifying as Discordian is not the same as any other identity.It isn't, as has already been pointed out.When done properly, anyway. I don't pretend that Discordianism is a panacea. It is not a system by which all monkeys can stand upright if only they're pure enough. No, Discordianism is a tool by which you CAN help yourself stand upright, if you have the inclination to do so.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2010, 07:53:17 pmQuote from: Kai on May 03, 2010, 07:51:44 pmDiscordianism is also a monkey trap.Right you are.So, let's just all grab bananas, masturbate for the crowd, and throw poop.Since there's no way out, and it's all hopeless, and we're not any different.Why am I here, again? There are easier ways to be a monkey.I didn't say what you posted. If, by your OP, these identifications are "monkey traps", then identifying as Discordian is also a monkey trap. Unless, of course, identifying as Discordian is not the same as any other identity.
Quote from: Kai on May 03, 2010, 07:51:44 pmDiscordianism is also a monkey trap.Right you are.So, let's just all grab bananas, masturbate for the crowd, and throw poop.Since there's no way out, and it's all hopeless, and we're not any different.Why am I here, again? There are easier ways to be a monkey.
Discordianism is also a monkey trap.
They help the other 94% of our planetary cohabs get with the fucking program, is what. Without an ideology to guide them, they'd go the way of the neandertals.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2010, 08:18:21 pmQuote from: Kai on May 03, 2010, 08:16:59 pmQuote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2010, 08:14:39 pmQuote from: Kai on May 03, 2010, 08:05:35 pmQuote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2010, 07:53:17 pmQuote from: Kai on May 03, 2010, 07:51:44 pmDiscordianism is also a monkey trap.Right you are.So, let's just all grab bananas, masturbate for the crowd, and throw poop.Since there's no way out, and it's all hopeless, and we're not any different.Why am I here, again? There are easier ways to be a monkey.I didn't say what you posted. If, by your OP, these identifications are "monkey traps", then identifying as Discordian is also a monkey trap. Unless, of course, identifying as Discordian is not the same as any other identity.It isn't, as has already been pointed out.When done properly, anyway. I don't pretend that Discordianism is a panacea. It is not a system by which all monkeys can stand upright if only they're pure enough. No, Discordianism is a tool by which you CAN help yourself stand upright, if you have the inclination to do so.Okay. So, I also identify as a Unitarian Universalist, Religious Naturalist and Insect Systematist. How are those things incompatible with Discordianism? Which one of those do you DO, and which do you base your self-worth and/or personal existence on?I don't stake my self worth or personal existence on identities.
Quote from: Sigmatic on May 03, 2010, 08:29:21 pmThey help the other 94% of our planetary cohabs get with the fucking program, is what. Without an ideology to guide them, they'd go the way of the neandertals. I'm quite sure that's the rationalization.And it sure helped in 1939.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2010, 08:31:24 pmQuote from: Sigmatic on May 03, 2010, 08:29:21 pmThey help the other 94% of our planetary cohabs get with the fucking program, is what. Without an ideology to guide them, they'd go the way of the neandertals. I'm quite sure that's the rationalization.And it sure helped in 1939.Oh, point.So how do you propose we keep ideologies from the masses?
Quote from: Sigmatic on May 03, 2010, 08:33:21 pmQuote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2010, 08:31:24 pmQuote from: Sigmatic on May 03, 2010, 08:29:21 pmThey help the other 94% of our planetary cohabs get with the fucking program, is what. Without an ideology to guide them, they'd go the way of the neandertals. I'm quite sure that's the rationalization.And it sure helped in 1939.Oh, point.So how do you propose we keep ideologies from the masses? At the risk of sounding pinealist, by keeping them confused.
Thing is, recognizing that we're primates should be a starting point, not an ending point.Once you realize that your ideology was designed to control your behavior, you have the choice to accept it, to reject it, or to pick it apart and accept some parts and not others. You, personally, as an individual.
Quote from: LMNO on May 03, 2010, 08:35:19 pmQuote from: Sigmatic on May 03, 2010, 08:33:21 pmQuote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2010, 08:31:24 pmQuote from: Sigmatic on May 03, 2010, 08:29:21 pmThey help the other 94% of our planetary cohabs get with the fucking program, is what. Without an ideology to guide them, they'd go the way of the neandertals. I'm quite sure that's the rationalization.And it sure helped in 1939.Oh, point.So how do you propose we keep ideologies from the masses? At the risk of sounding pinealist, by keeping them confused.Sounds workable.Now we need a formula to induce severe cognitive dissonance on a nationwide scale.
Quote from: Sigmatic on May 03, 2010, 08:33:21 pmQuote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2010, 08:31:24 pmQuote from: Sigmatic on May 03, 2010, 08:29:21 pmThey help the other 94% of our planetary cohabs get with the fucking program, is what. Without an ideology to guide them, they'd go the way of the neandertals. I'm quite sure that's the rationalization.And it sure helped in 1939.Oh, point.So how do you propose we keep ideologies from the masses? I don't. I am uninterested in saving the masses.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2010, 08:38:47 pmQuote from: Sigmatic on May 03, 2010, 08:33:21 pmQuote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2010, 08:31:24 pmQuote from: Sigmatic on May 03, 2010, 08:29:21 pmThey help the other 94% of our planetary cohabs get with the fucking program, is what. Without an ideology to guide them, they'd go the way of the neandertals. I'm quite sure that's the rationalization.And it sure helped in 1939.Oh, point.So how do you propose we keep ideologies from the masses? I don't. I am uninterested in saving the masses.I'd settle for saving myself from the masses.
Quote from: Kai on May 03, 2010, 08:30:27 pmQuote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2010, 08:18:21 pmQuoteOkay. So, I also identify as a Unitarian Universalist, Religious Naturalist and Insect Systematist. How are those things incompatible with Discordianism? Which one of those do you DO, and which do you base your self-worth and/or personal existence on?I don't stake my self worth or personal existence on identities. Then we have a misunderstanding of terms. We're arguing the same point.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 03, 2010, 08:18:21 pmQuoteOkay. So, I also identify as a Unitarian Universalist, Religious Naturalist and Insect Systematist. How are those things incompatible with Discordianism? Which one of those do you DO, and which do you base your self-worth and/or personal existence on?I don't stake my self worth or personal existence on identities.
QuoteOkay. So, I also identify as a Unitarian Universalist, Religious Naturalist and Insect Systematist. How are those things incompatible with Discordianism? Which one of those do you DO, and which do you base your self-worth and/or personal existence on?
Okay. So, I also identify as a Unitarian Universalist, Religious Naturalist and Insect Systematist. How are those things incompatible with Discordianism?