The art of making hamburgers

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'll have to read up on that -- because who the hell salts the meat, then grinds it?

Not to mention, most people don't grind their own meat, they start with it pre-ground.

People making sausage or meatballs salt meat before grinding. But then, someone who was accustomed to making sausage or meatballs would probably have already figured that out.

[LMNO]

That's weird.  Sausage, I understand, especially if you're making links; but with meatballs, I've always started out with pre-ground meat.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

That's weird.  Sausage, I understand, especially if you're making links; but with meatballs, I've always started out with pre-ground meat.

It depends on how much time I have and what I'm planning to do with it, but even with pre-ground meat I find I get a better texture if I knead the salt and seasonings into the meat and let it sit a bit before adding the breadcrumbs.

I often grind my own because very lean stew meat is cheaper than extra lean pre-ground beef or bison, and also because I can add lean pork or turkey. Most of the pre-ground stuff uses the fattiest scraps.

[Adios]

I don't have a grinder.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I use my Kitchenaid (sausage stuffer FTW!) but I see the cast-iron ones cheap secondhand all the time, and you can get them on eBay, too. Well worth it!

[Sir Squid Diddimus]

If I had a grinder I would grind ALL of my meats that I want ground.

It's one of the best ways to prevent food borne illnesses. You know where your shit is, you can clean and sanitize every single little part of it and you know exactly what's going in it.

Mmmmmmmm. Fresh grounds meats.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I like to eat raw meat, and a good way to make sure not to get sick is to marinate it in a brine solution before grinding it. I like to do a coarse grind of lean bison with onion and parsley, then eat it sprinkled with black pepper.

[Adios]

I like to eat raw meat, and a good way to make sure not to get sick is to marinate it in a brine solution before grinding it. I like to do a coarse grind of lean bison with onion and parsley, then eat it sprinkled with black pepper.

I know we are all different but to me white pepper has a much better flavor.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I like to eat raw meat, and a good way to make sure not to get sick is to marinate it in a brine solution before grinding it. I like to do a coarse grind of lean bison with onion and parsley, then eat it sprinkled with black pepper.

I know we are all different but to me white pepper has a much better flavor.

Black pepper is the whole berry, and white pepper is just the seed. I can see the appeal, as it has a crisper flavor, but I like the fullness of black pepper.

[Sir Squid Diddimus]

I'm not a fan of white pepper, and Nigel I'd eat the shit out of what you just described right thuuur.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm not a fan of white pepper, and Nigel I'd eat the shit out of what you just described right thuuur.

[Adios]

Let's elevate the hamburger to hamburger steaks. With mashed potatoes and brown gravy. When I prepare this I don't add the chopped onions before making the patties. I prefer to saute them in an red wine and butter with crushed garlic and whole button mushrooms for a topper.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Let's elevate the hamburger to hamburger steaks. With mashed potatoes and brown gravy. When I prepare this I don't add the chopped onions before making the patties. I prefer to saute them in an red wine and butter with crushed garlic and whole button mushrooms for a topper.

Mmmmmm!

[Triple Zero]

I like to eat raw meat, and a good way to make sure not to get sick is to marinate it in a brine solution before grinding it. I like to do a coarse grind of lean bison with onion and parsley, then eat it sprinkled with black pepper.

Do you put that on toast or a slice of bread or something?

Over here we have something similar and it's called Filet Americain ...

though if you buy it in the shop it's probably filled with preservatives, since it's raw meat after all. also it sounds like our variant has more spices and things in it than what you describe.

ah it's called Steak Tartare in english: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare

[Sir Squid Diddimus]

Filet Americain

Are you sure this isn't a pound of ground beef wrapped in bacon, battered, deep fried, dipped in cheese sauce and topped with melted butter and whipped cream? ON A STICK!

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