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Started by Vene, May 11, 2010, 05:39:50 PM

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Quote from: Iptuous on May 11, 2010, 09:23:57 PM
ok. 'questioning' = bi-curious.   get that.
but, what's the difference between 'queer' and 'gay'?
and wtf is intersex?  is that someone who only whacks off to the intarwebs?
can they add K for 'kinky' so i can get benefits, too?

What benefits?
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Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 11, 2010, 09:13:18 PM
I'm not sure about the intersex part. 

Questioning, if I understand correctly, is bisexual with a question mark.  But I may be crudely oversimplifying that. 

The only reason I even know the acronym is because I've partnered with LGBTQQIA serving organizations in my work.

I guess that makes me an A.   

Thinking that I'm an A when it comes to rights, and case-by-case when it comes to individuals.
Molon Lube

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Quote from: Iptuous on May 11, 2010, 09:23:57 PM
but, what's the difference between 'queer' and 'gay'?

Queer was supposed to be added to deal with the proliferation of genderqueer types (cause everyone wants recognition in the title).

This apparently failed miserably.
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I'm not sure about the intersex part.

Intersex=Naturally having characteristics of both sexes.
Inflatable dolls are not recognized flotation devices.

Elder Iptuous

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on May 11, 2010, 09:24:53 PM
What benefits?

You're saying there aren't any?  what kind of union is that?

Quote from: Requia ☣ on May 11, 2010, 09:30:33 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 11, 2010, 09:23:57 PM
but, what's the difference between 'queer' and 'gay'?

Queer was supposed to be added to deal with the proliferation of genderqueer types (cause everyone wants recognition in the title).

This apparently failed miserably.
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I'm not sure about the intersex part.

Intersex=Naturally having characteristics of both sexes.

what the hell is genderqueer?!
and what do you mean by characteristics?  like physically?  like Yul Brynner with boobs?
or you mean a man that likes to do some traditionally female tasks? 

is there a wikipage to esplain all this?  perhaps with example pics and diagrams?

MMIX

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Quote from: Iptuous on May 11, 2010, 09:35:08 PM
is there a wikipage to esplain all this?  perhaps with example pics and diagrams?

:roll: If you had taken the trouble to Wiki it you could have answered your own - kind of offensive - question
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Gender refers to the personal inner-sex identity of an individual, irrespective of his or her outer sex, which is determined by his/her/hir sexual organs
/queer stick up ass


and you want pictures - fuck it man find your own damn porn  :wink:
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: MMIX on May 11, 2010, 09:46:10 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 11, 2010, 09:35:08 PM
is there a wikipage to esplain all this?  perhaps with example pics and diagrams?

:roll: If you had taken the trouble to Wiki it you could have answered your own - kind of offensive - question
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Gender refers to the personal inner-sex identity of an individual, irrespective of his or her outer sex, which is determined by his/her/hir sexual organs
/queer stick up ass


and you want pictures - fuck it man find your own damn porn  :wink:

Odd.  I always thought "Gender" meant your biological state (ie, male or female).
Molon Lube

Elder Iptuous

Quote from: MMIX on May 11, 2010, 09:46:10 PM
:roll: If you had taken the trouble to Wiki it you could have answered your own - kind of offensive - question

:oops:
not meaning to be offensive....
I'm an 'A', i assure you.

Doktor Howl

I don't see how the question was offensive.
Molon Lube

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Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 11, 2010, 09:51:21 PM
Quote from: MMIX on May 11, 2010, 09:46:10 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 11, 2010, 09:35:08 PM
is there a wikipage to esplain all this?  perhaps with example pics and diagrams?

:roll: If you had taken the trouble to Wiki it you could have answered your own - kind of offensive - question
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Gender refers to the personal inner-sex identity of an individual, irrespective of his or her outer sex, which is determined by his/her/hir sexual organs
/queer stick up ass


and you want pictures - fuck it man find your own damn porn  :wink:

Odd.  I always thought "Gender" meant your biological state (ie, male or female).

I'm sure some of the more savvy spags will come in and own us all, but I think Gender is more associated with man or woman, not male or female.  That is a reference to social roles and whatnot.  Sex is male or female, which refers to biological state.

My social justice teacher would have my head on a platter for not knowing this.
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 11, 2010, 09:51:21 PM
Odd.  I always thought "Gender" meant your biological state (ie, male or female).

EoC is right.  Sex - biological.  Gender - socialized (pink/blue blankets and so on).  'Queer' is sometimes used to un-binarize (bodies, identity, theory)... sometimes it's just used as a catchall in place of the alphabet soup.  Slightly off-topic, but the soup I'm familiar with is LGBTTQ2S.  That last is two-spirit.

@ OP - Awesome flashmob.  That made my day.  :D
It feels unreal because it's trickling up.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: EoC on May 11, 2010, 10:01:28 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 11, 2010, 09:51:21 PM
Quote from: MMIX on May 11, 2010, 09:46:10 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on May 11, 2010, 09:35:08 PM
is there a wikipage to esplain all this?  perhaps with example pics and diagrams?

:roll: If you had taken the trouble to Wiki it you could have answered your own - kind of offensive - question
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Gender refers to the personal inner-sex identity of an individual, irrespective of his or her outer sex, which is determined by his/her/hir sexual organs
/queer stick up ass


and you want pictures - fuck it man find your own damn porn  :wink:

Odd.  I always thought "Gender" meant your biological state (ie, male or female).

I'm sure some of the more savvy spags will come in and own us all, but I think Gender is more associated with man or woman, not male or female.  That is a reference to social roles and whatnot.  Sex is male or female, which refers to biological state.

My social justice teacher would have my head on a platter for not knowing this.

I see.  I've been going by the dictionary meaning:

Quotegen·der [ jéndər ]   
somebody's sex: the sex of a person or organism, or of a whole category of people or organisms
categorization of nouns: the classification of nouns and pronouns in some languages according to the forms taken by adjectives, modifiers, and other grammatical items associated syntactically with them
category of noun: any one of the categories into which nouns and pronouns are divided in languages that have gender, e.g. masculine, feminine, neuter, or common
Synonyms: sex, sexual category, sexual characteristics, masculinity, femininity, sexual role
See full definition · Encarta World English Dictionary

Hadn't heard the other meaning.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Nurse Rhizome on May 11, 2010, 10:06:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 11, 2010, 09:51:21 PM
Odd.  I always thought "Gender" meant your biological state (ie, male or female).

EoC is right.  Sex - biological.  Gender - socialized (pink/blue blankets and so on).  'Queer' is sometimes used to un-binarize (bodies, identity, theory)... sometimes it's just used as a catchall in place of the alphabet soup.  Slightly off-topic, but the soup I'm familiar with is LGBTTQ2S.  That last is two-spirit.

@ OP - Awesome flashmob.  That made my day.  :D

Okay, enough is enough.  I refuse to memorize LGBTTQ2S.  I'm just gonna say "people".

And I'm still confused as to why Ippie's question was offensive.
Molon Lube

Elder Iptuous

Quote from: Nurse Rhizome on May 11, 2010, 10:06:29 PM
the soup I'm familiar with is LGBTTQ2S.  That last is two-spirit.

... i already used the asplode emote....
what do i do now?
:lol:

Hoser McRhizzy

Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 11, 2010, 10:18:11 PM
Okay, enough is enough.  I refuse to memorize LGBTTQ2S. 

:?

Only included it as a point of interest to RHWN's note - thinking maybe the soups are differently put together in Canada than in the states or the uk or wherever s/he's from.  ... Ah, I see where my problem might have been: I should've been clearer about whose point I was adding to and not put it all in one chunk.*  I wasn't asking you to remember or use anything.  Apologies if I was unclear.

Unimportant personal information: I usually just use the word queer if I'm talking about everyone minus hets.  Else I end up making a BBQ joke which hasn't been funny since the 90s.

@ Iptuous - use it again?  Do watcha wannado.


*will eventually get the hang of this internets-talking thingy, damnabbit!
It feels unreal because it's trickling up.

Elder Iptuous

What is hets?
what is 2spirited?