I love the queers

[Eater of Clowns]

is there a wikipage to esplain all this?  perhaps with example pics and diagrams?

If you had taken the trouble to Wiki it you could have answered your own - kind of offensive - question

Gender refers to the personal inner-sex identity of an individual, irrespective of his or her outer sex, which is determined by his/her/hir sexual organs

/queer stick up ass


and you want pictures - fuck it man find your own damn porn  

Odd.  I always thought "Gender" meant your biological state (ie, male or female).

I'm sure some of the more savvy spags will come in and own us all, but I think Gender is more associated with man or woman, not male or female.  That is a reference to social roles and whatnot.  Sex is male or female, which refers to biological state.

My social justice teacher would have my head on a platter for not knowing this.

I see.  I've been going by the dictionary meaning:

gen·der [ jéndər ]   
somebody's sex: the sex of a person or organism, or of a whole category of people or organisms
categorization of nouns: the classification of nouns and pronouns in some languages according to the forms taken by adjectives, modifiers, and other grammatical items associated syntactically with them
category of noun: any one of the categories into which nouns and pronouns are divided in languages that have gender, e.g. masculine, feminine, neuter, or common
Synonyms: sex, sexual category, sexual characteristics, masculinity, femininity, sexual role
See full definition · Encarta World English Dictionary

Hadn't heard the other meaning.

The hell's a dictionary?  Oh Doktor with your antiquities, you slay me!

[Doktor Howl]

Okay, enough is enough.  I refuse to memorize LGBTTQ2S. 

Only included it as a point of interest to RHWN's note - thinking maybe the soups are differently put together in Canada than in the states or the uk or wherever s/he's from.  ... Ah, I see where my problem might have been: I should've been clearer about whose point I was adding to and not put it all in one chunk.*  I wasn't asking you to remember or use anything.  Apologies if I was unclear.

Unimportant personal information: I usually just use the word queer if I'm talking about everyone minus hets.  Else I end up making a BBQ joke which hasn't been funny since the 90s.

@ Iptuous - use it again?  Do watcha wannado.


*will eventually get the hang of this internets-talking thingy, damnabbit!

Well, it's sort of become a self-referential joke, from an outsider's POV.  An endless regression of added terms, as if one group might become enraged at being "lumped in" with other non-heteros.  It seems to be more of an ego thing, than any attempt at identification.

[Doktor Howl]

And if MMIX comes back to this thread, I'm really kinda bugged about the "offensive" thing.  Since when has asking for information become offensive?  Bigotry is composed of ignorance and/or fear.  Telling someone they're "offensive" for trying to eliminate their own ignorance seems to be more hystrionics and love of being "persecuted" than any attempt at equality.

And if the question isn't one of equality, then it's mere attention-whoring.

[Doktor Howl]

What is hets?
what is 2spirited?

Hets = heterosexual, I think.

2 spirited sounds suspiciously hippie.  Like 3 moon wolf or some shit.

[Nast]

Two-spirited is a term used across various Native American tribes to describe someone who fulfills both gender roles, i.e. having the spirits of both a man and a woman.

[Elder Iptuous]

What is hets?
what is 2spirited?

Hets = heterosexual, I think.

2 spirited sounds suspiciously hippie.  Like 3 moon wolf or some shit.

oh.... duh.
yeah, the 2spirited thing made me think there were furries working their way into this shit....

[Doktor Howl]

Two-spirited is a term used across various Native American tribes to describe someone who fulfills both gender roles, i.e. having the spirits of both a man and a woman.

I knew it.

[Kai]

a gender thread, in MY Apple Talk?

[Doktor Howl]

What is hets?
what is 2spirited?

Hets = heterosexual, I think.

2 spirited sounds suspiciously hippie.  Like 3 moon wolf or some shit.

oh.... duh.
yeah, the 2spirited thing made me think there were furries working their way into this shit....

That's bound to happen.  Or "Otherkin" (Do not drink liquids while googling).

[Doktor Howl]

a gender thread, in MY Apple Talk?

It's more ambiguous than you think!

[Elder Iptuous]

a gender thread, in MY Apple Talk?

It's more ambiguous than you think!

[Nast]

Two-spirited is a term used across various Native American tribes to describe someone who fulfills both gender roles, i.e. having the spirits of both a man and a woman.

I knew it.

And I'm sure that Native Americans are thrilled with the patchouli-scented crowd's fondness of appropriating* their culture.

*Read: ripping off

[Doktor Howl]

Two-spirited is a term used across various Native American tribes to describe someone who fulfills both gender roles, i.e. having the spirits of both a man and a woman.

I knew it.

And I'm sure that Native Americans are thrilled with the patchouli-scented crowd's fondness of appropriating* their culture.

*Read: ripping off

Yeah, just like they must love the Cherohonky crowd.

[Requia ☣]

What benefits?

You're saying there aren't any?  what kind of union is that?

but, what's the difference between 'queer' and 'gay'?

Queer was supposed to be added to deal with the proliferation of genderqueer types (cause everyone wants recognition in the title).

This apparently failed miserably.

I'm not sure about the intersex part.

Intersex=Naturally having characteristics of both sexes.

what the hell is genderqueer?!
and what do you mean by characteristics?  like physically?  like Yul Brynner with boobs?
or you mean a man that likes to do some traditionally female tasks? 

is there a wikipage to esplain all this?  perhaps with example pics and diagrams?

Wiki probably has a page on intersex conditions.  But physical or genetic conditions.  Genderqueer is identity stuff, male body identifying as a woman, female body identifying as a man, identifying as both but not at the same time, a combination of the two, or no gender.  There are probably more that I'm forgetting.

[Doktor Howl]

The hell's a dictionary?  Oh Doktor with your antiquities, you slay me!

I am a foolish old man, sometimes.