I love the queers

[Triple Zero]

I suppose.  There's no actual English word for the concept I think is trying to be expressed, so "gender" as opposed to "sex" will probably have to do.

As far as I've always understood, "gender" in this context* refers to the meaning expressed in the word "genderstudies", which studies the social function of gender, as opposed to the biological one.

As dictionary words, "sex" and "gender" are pretty much synonymous. It's very possible that dictionaries do not elaborate on the subtle-ish distinction, I'd check a (modern) encyclopaedia for that.

(*as opposed to, say, gender of nouns in linguistics)

The other terms, genderqueer, transsexual, etc have always confused me somewhat. Partly because I don't care enough for all the myriad distinctions, but mostly because in my experience just about anybody that categorizes themselves outside hetero/homo/male/female has their own unique story and ideas about it, and every time I thought I got it, somebody different popped up. And because it's so personal, some just don't like to talk about it very openly, which makes it even harder to just "pick up" all this new terminology.

[Triple Zero]

I think "queer" works just fine, but some people are bothered by the word, so I usually just say "weird", sometimes with "gender-" as a suffix.

Wouldn't "genderweird" be offensive to some? Just like I once made the mistake of using the word "genderconfused"?

"genderconfusing" would be sort of apt though, since it is confusing to me

and I return the favor by not introducing myself as "Nigel the Polyamorous Bisexual Buttfucker".

couldn't you stick to two relationships at a time, just for alliterative purposes?

[Triple Zero]

I also get annoyed when I'm introduced as Gay... I shot down the last person who did that.

Well, that classifies you as a homicidal homo.

[Triple Zero]

it does represent a very significant definition for the various sexual/gender minorities who are represented and who feel the need to be so represented in a world where we are constantly reminded that Het is the NORM and all the rest of us are deviants.

Well that's the thing. I wasn't raised like that, when I had sex-ed in high school, we talked about male, femalse, hetero- and homosexuality. Those were implied as the norms. Transsexuality and "being born in the wrong body" were briefly discussed but not elaborated on, and that's it.

It took me until various types of genderqueers* popped up on PD to realize there is a whole lot more to it.

*I have no idea if this is now the right word here.

[Kai]

I think "queer" works just fine, but some people are bothered by the word, so I usually just say "weird", sometimes with "gender-" as a suffix.

Wouldn't "genderweird" be offensive to some? Just like I once made the mistake of using the word "genderconfused"?

"genderconfusing" would be sort of apt though, since it is confusing to me

I meant that some people are bothered by the word "queer" because it's a politically charged word, so "weird" is a nice alternative.

[Cramulus]

all this identity stuff is going to get a lot weirder in the next 10, 20, 30 years

I'm reminded of the state of religion in Transmetropolitan. Everybody belongs to these cults, these really narrowly purposed short-lived religions. Nobody's a christian, though they might be a member of the First Church of Jesus' Haircut or the Ancient and Illuminated Temple of Papal Delights, which are kind of like derivatives of christianity.

And as the internet accelerates growth at the fringes of society we're going to see more and more far out identities and proclivities become "legitimate", because the internet, if anything, facilitates the formation of support networks and interest groups.

So just get ready for that alphabet soup abbreviation to get longer and longer.

LBGTBBQWTFETC

[LMNO]

Can't we just realize that only a minory of people want to be known as "Heterosexual Missionary Position for Procreation Only,"  and just start labeling them, leaving the rest of us as "normal"?


I'm anti HMPPO - In fact, I'm a HMPPOmophobe.

[Elder Iptuous]

Can't we just realize that only a minory of people want to be known as "Heterosexual Missionary Position for Procreation Only,"  and just start labeling them, leaving the rest of us as "normal"?


I'm anti HMPPO - In fact, I'm a HMPPOmophobe.

I'm convinced that there are plenty in the soup that specifically desire to be 'abnormal' enough that if your suggestion were to take off, they would become HMPPO....
perhaps even joining the Quiverfull movement.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Can't we just realize that only a minory of people want to be known as "Heterosexual Missionary Position for Procreation Only,"  and just start labeling them, leaving the rest of us as "normal"?


I'm anti HMPPO - In fact, I'm a HMPPOmophobe.

I don't have a problem with the HMPPOs, as long as they don't shove it in my face.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Can't we just realize that only a minory of people want to be known as "Heterosexual Missionary Position for Procreation Only,"  and just start labeling them, leaving the rest of us as "normal"?


I'm anti HMPPO - In fact, I'm a HMPPOmophobe.

I'm convinced that there are plenty in the soup that specifically desire to be 'abnormal' enough that if your suggestion were to take off, they would become HMPPO....
perhaps even joining the Quiverfull movement.

I suspect you're right

and then they would talk about it all the time and make sure everyone knew, and act all butthurt if you don't think they're special.

[Adios]

Ron White; everybody is a little gay.

Rons friend; I AM NOT!

Ron; You like porn?

Friend; You know I like porn.

Ron; So you just watch women with women?

Friend; No, I like men with women too.

Ron; So you like the guy to have a small half flacid penis.

Friend; No. I like him to have a big throbb.......I never knew that about myself.

[Rumckle]

Can't we just realize that only a minory of people want to be known as "Heterosexual Missionary Position for Procreation Only,"  and just start labeling them, leaving the rest of us as "normal"?


I'm anti HMPPO - In fact, I'm a HMPPOmophobe.

I don't have a problem with the HMPPOs, as long as they don't shove it in my face.

Shoving it in your face from a missionary position seems like it would be rather awkward.

[BabylonHoruv]

I think "queer" works just fine, but some people are bothered by the word, so I usually just say "weird", sometimes with "gender-" as a suffix.

Wouldn't "genderweird" be offensive to some? Just like I once made the mistake of using the word "genderconfused"?

"genderconfusing" would be sort of apt though, since it is confusing to me

and I return the favor by not introducing myself as "Nigel the Polyamorous Bisexual Buttfucker".

couldn't you stick to two relationships at a time, just for alliterative purposes?

Genderweird might be offensive, but it also seems accurate to me.  Being intersexed, trans, or asexual (those poor fucks don't seem to be in the soup yet) is weird, as in, far outside the norm.  Confused meanwhile may easily be inaccurate as most of them have a pretty clear idea of what they are, it's just confusing to you and I.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

and I return the favor by not introducing myself as "Nigel the Polyamorous Bisexual Buttfucker".

couldn't you stick to two relationships at a time, just for alliterative purposes?

Heyyyyy I think you're onto something!

[NotPublished]

I also get annoyed when I'm introduced as Gay... I shot down the last person who did that.

Well, that classifies you as a homicidal homo.

I've been called a Homophobic Homo once

Actually I've been called many things .. don't really care for much of them