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Started by Adios, May 25, 2010, 03:59:44 PM

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Quote from: Sigmatic on May 25, 2010, 07:25:39 PM
Call me a jumped up chat-bot but I saw "hell" and "people" and couldn't help but be reminded of Sartre.

See my first 2 posts in this thread.
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Quote from: Sigmatic on May 25, 2010, 08:43:04 PM
God I'm dumb, sorry.   Nevermind.

Your input is still valid.

Adios

I can't help the way my mind works.

Let's look at the christian heaven for a moment.
The supposed draw is one gets to live forever doing nothing but singing praises to and about their god. They are to spend every moment worshiping him. It's all about one guy. Period.

Sounds like hell to me.

memy

#19
To me there is a balance between the heavens and hells of the "eastern" and "western" religions.

Looking at Buddhism, for instance, "heaven" (nirvana) is actually a removal from the complexities and sufferings of life. It is an empty spaceless void. On the other hand, Christian heaven is an embrace of the complexities and sufferings of life. I know this because by definition heaven is supposedly "being in the presence of God". God, being a summation of the entire universe, would actually be a representation of all the order/chaos in the world, all its good and all its bad. Heaven by my definition would actually be like being in the presence of both God and Devil, since they are one and the same.

Likewise, being in the presence of life is hell to Buddhists. Some people, like Buddha, chose to remain in hellish life in order to teach those how to leave it for the void. And, likewise, being in the void means NOT being-with-god, making it hell to Christians.

Edit: also another thing I was thinking about. You can think of heaven and hell in terms of increasing or decreasing dimensional activity. One being a simplifying shift down from 3D down to 2D, then to 1D, then 0D if there is such a thing. The other being a complicating shift from 3D to 4D to 5D and so on.

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Adios

Quote from: memy on May 26, 2010, 05:58:17 PM
To me there is a balance between the heavens and hells of the "eastern" and "western" religions.

Looking at Buddhism, for instance, "heaven" (nirvana) is actually a removal from the complexities and sufferings of life. It is an empty spaceless void. On the other hand, Christian heaven is an embrace of the complexities and sufferings of life. I know this because by definition heaven is supposedly "being in the presence of God". God, being a summation of the entire universe, would actually be a representation of all the order/chaos in the world, all its good and all its bad. Heaven by my definition would actually be like being in the presence of both God and Devil, since they are one and the same.

Likewise, being in the presence of life is hell to Buddhists. Some people, like Buddha, chose to remain in hellish life in order to teach those how to leave it for the void. And, likewise, being in the void means NOT being-with-god, making it hell to Christians.

Edit: also another thing I was thinking about. You can think of heaven and hell in terms of increasing or decreasing dimensional activity. One being a simplifying shift down from 3D down to 2D, then to 1D, then 0D if there is such a thing. The other being a complicating shift from 3D to 4D to 5D and so on.



They both sound boring as hell and I want no part of either of them.

P3nT4gR4m

Hell is only any use if there's shotguns and plenty of powerups lying around and a whole host of increasingly gross and difficult to kill monsters. If it's not like that then I'm taking my business elsewhere.

Heaven? Yeah right, we all dress in white and sing kumbaya all day? Watch me!

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memy

#22
Heaven for me would be like living in this world, only I can fly and explode things with my mind. Also hallucinogens are legal and entirely safe to use. And everyone wants my body, but please just one at a time ladies

edit: men feel free to come at me in groups though
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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 26, 2010, 06:57:03 PM
Hell or heaven is only any use if there's shotguns and plenty of powerups lying around and a whole host of increasingly gross and difficult to kill monsters. If it's not like that then I'm taking my business elsewhere.



P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: memy on May 26, 2010, 07:09:04 PM
Heaven for me would be like living in this world, only I can fly and explode things with my mind. Also hallucinogens are legal and entirely safe to use. And everyone wants my body, but please just one at a time ladies

edit: men feel free to come at me in groups though

Jesus fuck, you weren't kidding about that being-married thing were ya?

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

memy

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 26, 2010, 07:15:26 PM
[Jesus fuck, you weren't kidding about that being-married thing were ya?

Nope. But in the end relationships are messy; it doesn't matter to me how they come. Then again, messy is good, isn't it? I can honestly say I love all the fighting and self-hatred. It keeps me on my toes.
ma-ma-say ma-ma-sah ma-ma-co-sah

P3nT4gR4m

Meh, I did a five-stretch myself but in the end getting laid regularly won out over the joy of constant fighting :lulz:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Adios

My first marriage of 25 years was horrible. The second on at 10 and counting is excellent.

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Quote from: memy on May 26, 2010, 07:21:43 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 26, 2010, 07:15:26 PM
[Jesus fuck, you weren't kidding about that being-married thing were ya?

Nope. But in the end relationships are messy; it doesn't matter to me how they come. Then again, messy is good, isn't it? I can honestly say I love all the fighting and self-hatred. It keeps me on my toes.

:lmnuendo:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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OH AND

Quote from: memy on May 26, 2010, 07:21:43 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on May 26, 2010, 07:15:26 PM
[Jesus fuck, you weren't kidding about that being-married thing were ya?

Nope. But in the end relationships are messy; it doesn't matter to me how they come. Then again, messy is good, isn't it? I can honestly say I love all the fighting and self-hatred. It keeps me on my toes.

:lmnuendo:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."