Honestly, where is the proper forum for me to discuss...

[Kai]

World of Warcraft.

I know, lame.  I don't care, honestly.

Where should I discuss it?

Can't you find anything more INTERESTING to talk about?

I mean, FFS, as a human (and I'm assuming you're a human and not some sort of cabbage) you have a brain greatly disproportionate to your body size. Use it.

[the last yatto]

I think the noob streak has been broken.

[LMNO]

you have a brain greatly disproportionate to your body size. Use it.

That's a great fucking newsfeed quote.

[Kai]

you have a brain greatly disproportionate to your body size. Use it.

That's a great fucking newsfeed quote.

[Rev. Dr. Narot]

World of Warcraft.

I know, lame.  I don't care, honestly.

Where should I discuss it?

I fucking hate World of Warcraft, and I'm particularly negative this morning. Want to talk about how shitty it is? Oh hi btw.

[Cramulus]

Hi lost equilibrium

I tried, but I couldn't get into WoW. The grind kills it for me - why is it that so many MMOs are built to be repetitive and time consuming? PvP is fun, raids are fun, some of the instances are fun... killing 130 boars to get the right component is not fun.

Anyway, welcome to PD

[Rev. Dr. Narot]

Hi lost equilibrium

I tried, but I couldn't get into WoW. The grind kills it for me - why is it that so many MMOs are built to be repetitive and time consuming? PvP is fun, raids are fun, some of the instances are fun... killing 130 boars to get the right component is not fun.

Anyway, welcome to PD

Really the worst part of the game, to me, is how everyone operates on the assumption that it's not "fun" until you reach the level cap. Warhammer On-line was pretty fun because it was kind of an incessant PVP match where the grinding was just an inbetween "pass the time" sort of activity. I liked that in Warhammer you could queue a PVP match from anywhere in the game, and it'd start up "Unreal Tournament" style within a minute or two of queuing. My last WoW login consisted of my friends explaining how I had to gain 45 more levels for the "fun" to start and spending an hour traveling to a city to start a PVP match... Yup.

[Vene]

I tried, but I couldn't get into WoW. The grind kills it for me - why is it that so many MMOs are built to be repetitive and time consuming? PvP is fun, raids are fun, some of the instances are fun... killing 130 boars to get the right component is not fun.

Cracked actually did a thing about that. Basically, they make you do a lot of grinding for a little bit of fun because if it was just the fun people would get bored and stop paying, but if you for them to spend a lot of time grinding to reaching the fun, they'll continue to pay.

[Eater of Clowns]

The social aspects of any MMORPG are the fun parts.  I know you get all those idiot bastards who are all about the uber gear and bullshit, but if you find a good niche of friends, and you will, it makes even the mundane stuff appealing.  The most fun I had in the game wasn't when I was fighting the next epic boss, it was when I was working with some friends in a new spot trying not to get killed.  One reason I stopped playing was my guild chat just stopped being active - everyone was too absorbed in getting cooler shit.

- Eater of Clowns AKA Sirke level 60 Troll Hunter, Medivh server, Disciples of Damnation, Silent Watch, '04-'06  

David Wong on Cracked has some pretty interesting thoughts on video games, especially MMORPGs - I think there's an article called 5 Things Video Games Are Doing To Keep You Addicted or something similar that has some strong points in it.  A lot of it has to do with WoW and why it's the most successful MMORPG - it fulfills basically every item on the list.

WoW is just one of those things that you do during free time (unless you're really hardcore and plan things around it) that you come to enjoy.  It's like pretty much any television show.  If you can step back from it and say "this is entertaining, but do I really need this in my life?" you'll probably find you don't.

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

WoW is great if you want to masturbate while your ex is downstairs playing it. This was before he moved out of course.

It is why Linux is beautiful thing.

It is my idea of hell, like facebook games and people who talk about WoW at the pub are the dullest thing ever.

Some of my mates like this sort of gaming but they know not to go on about it.

They are nice people tho.

[Cramulus]

Really the worst part of the game, to me, is how everyone operates on the assumption that it's not "fun" until you reach the level cap.

totally true

Blizzard feeds this.. all the updates and patches and additional content are for end-game, not level 12 thugs.

The social aspects of any MMORPG are the fun parts.

agreed

Ultima Online had this really lofty goal of having a player-created, player-run government... it didn't work because most people played the game like Diablo. They wanted Fantasy SecondLife, but you give people freedom and make it easy to break the law, and what do you expect?

I wish there was a game that got it right though. i would love to play an MMO where I could be the senator for a group of people. And my constituents would write to me with their concerns, and I'd bring them up to the senate or something.

[P3nT4gR4m]

All RPG's are shit. Video games were invented so you could blow the piss out of aliens, not so you could run about talking to people and collecting clothes - they have fucking IRL for that.

[Vene]

All RPG's are shit. Video games were invented so you could blow the piss out of aliens, not so you could run about talking to people and collecting clothes - they have fucking IRL for that.

Ragnarok Online is worse, if you go the legal route you have to collect cards, which have a 1 in 10,000 chance in dropping. Naturally, if you go the illegal route it's much easier, but you're still killing things for cards.

[Cramulus]

All RPG's are shit. Video games were invented so you could blow the piss out of aliens, not so you could run about talking to people and collecting clothes - they have fucking IRL for that.

[LMNO]

I'm just waiting for Suu to find this thread.



LMNO
-just likes watching WoW widows go ballistic.