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Started by Fyxen, June 08, 2010, 08:58:34 PM

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Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: LMNO on June 09, 2010, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on June 09, 2010, 05:15:54 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 09, 2010, 05:09:05 PM
There was a belief system in the 60s that was an offshoot of the black power movement that specialized in breaking down words to create a new meaning, but was completely wrong in etymology terms.  One of the more common being "History is only His Story".  I think Sun Ra was a big believer in that.  I'd do some more digging, but I'm a little busy, and a lot lazy.

Yeah, the Nuwaubian movement. It's still around

Ah.  I forgot what it was called.  If I recall, there's a lot of sloppy faux-kabalistic number theory, as well.

I thought that was the 5 percenters, though I could be wrong.
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Quote from: Fyxen on June 08, 2010, 08:58:34 PM
"bye" is it a separation greeting
or a memetic word programer that tells you to "buy" more things
but because the two words are spelled differently you don't notice that its telling you to buy more stuff

I haven't done a ton of reading on Neuro Linguistic Programming.. But as I understand it, if you say Goodbye to somebody while they are otherwise contemplating whether or not something is a good buy, they might confuse their perception of your voice with their internal monologue.

IIRC one of the posters here, Lysergic, has a pretty good hypnotic trick in which he tells the train conductor that "It's been a busy day. I didn't want a full affair" as he shows the guy an expired ticket. In the conductor's head, he hears "full fare", confuses it with the thought "full fare", and moves onto the next guy.

Kai

Quote from: LMNO on June 09, 2010, 01:31:19 PM
In other breaking news, "GOD" is simply "DOG" spelled backwards. 


Really makes, you think, doesn't it?



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My thoughts exactly.

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Does this mean that the use of "See ya" and "see you later" are part of some kind of anti-consumerist movement?
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Quote from: Rumckle on June 10, 2010, 08:55:55 AM
Does this mean that the use of "See ya" and "see you later" are part of some kind of anti-consumerist movement?

See you later is part of the Wool Industry conspiracy.
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Just don't confuse entymology with etymology.

It bugs me.

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Is Entymology a specific subset of botany


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I was going to say is it a branch... but two puns in one post is strictly against my code of honour

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Fyxen

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Quote from: Triple Zero on June 08, 2010, 09:26:09 PM
if that were true, shopping addiction should be significantly less in countries where they speak a language where these two words are not homonyms.

i feel that the different language doesn't matter but the meaning.
shopping addictions are significantly higher in washington.
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Yay! Ignore Context and wonderful semantic games are possible.



http://www.springerlink.com/content/m426306q4xn12g87/

Abstract:  Two experiments are reported which examined whether the various meanings of polysemous adjectives (e.g.,firm as in solid or firm as in strict) are functionally independent during language comprehension.

In Experiment 1 a priming technique was used, similar to that which has been used to investigate the processing of homonyms, to test whether alternative meanings of polysemous words become active even if they are irrelevant in the context.

The results showed that this was only reliably the case for central meanings of the words (eg.,firm  as in solid), for which effects were found as much as 1100 mili-sec after prime onset. No significant priming of targets related to non-central meanings (eg.,firm as in strict) was obtained in irrelevant contexts. This happened despite the fact that both types of target were equally primed when the prime occurred in isolation.

Experiment 2 obtained similar results using a relatedness judgment task. The asymmetrical priming of central and non-central targets in irrelevant contexts is discussed in terms of a hierarchical meaning structure relating the diverse uses of polysemous words.
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http://www.faqs.org/abstracts/Psychology-and-mental-health/Native-and-L2-processing-of-homonyms-in-sentential-context-The-independence-of-combinatory-semantic-.html

Article Abstract:

Native and non-native processing of homonyms in sentence whose two most frequent meanings are nouns or a noun and a verb are compared. The event-related brain potential (ERP) data showed that activation of inappropriate meanings had decayed for natives, but not for non-natives, suggesting that non-natives show native-like multiple access at an early processing stage, but differ from the natives later in processing when sentence context information is used to disambiguate meanings.

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http://books.google.com/books?id=UKT99_2OEkUC&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=%22Processing+of+Homonyms%22&source=bl&ots=SHMMKzoqsg&sig=gxsGEcXYDFEPguJx4nb1KbdWPCc&hl=en&ei=W_wUTL_OIpOaMqWGrc8L&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBEQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=%22Processing%20of%20Homonyms%22&f=false

Can't quote this one, but it's very interesting as well. It point out the differences in homonym processing in neuro-diverse people.





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interesting links!
thanks Telarus....