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Doktor Howl

Molon Lube

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 05:27:21 PM
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 25, 2010, 05:18:55 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 25, 2010, 05:10:34 PM

Quantum inseperability.  Crudely stated, two particles that have been in contact with each other appear to act as if they are exchanging information at a distance instantaneously.  If you'd like, I can get technical.

Something you could clarify for me, if'n you don't mind. I've heard tell of this QUIP and was wondering - has science actually now recorded two tiny little pieces of stuff clearly exchanging over a distance like some kind of telepathy or teleportation or something or is my interpretation the usual case of - layman get wrong end of double-slit stick?

Cos if it's the former then surely this changes just about fucking everything?

It is currently being used in cryptographic applications.

Um, but to be clear... QUANTUMZ is not a good reason to presume life after death etc.... Quantum Entanglement/QUIP etc does appear to exist, but it seems like a cop out to lay 'consciousness after death' at the feet of something we are still trying to figure out. It 'may' be related, but theres no more evidence of that than there is of no life after death, souls or whatever else people might come up with.
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Kai on June 25, 2010, 05:47:23 PM
This thread...I don't even know.

If you'd said that back at the start instead of words to the effect of "I do know for a fact" this thread would never have happened  :lulz:

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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 25, 2010, 05:55:59 PM
Quote from: Kai on June 25, 2010, 05:47:23 PM
This thread...I don't even know.

If you'd said that back at the start instead of words to the effect of "I do know for a fact" this thread would never have happened  :lulz:

Or it may have, depending on whether or not anyone observed it.
Molon Lube

Cosine 5

Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:25:02 PM
Quote from: Cosine 5 on June 25, 2010, 05:21:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:07:43 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 25, 2010, 05:04:13 PM
He's mishandling a theory that information may travel faster than light. 

BALLS. 

He's trying to conflate "awareness" with "information".  Taking "quantum tunneling" and shitting some Zen garbage all over it.

DANCING WU LI MASTERS, YOU'RE ON IN 5!

This is marvelous.

I'm a marvelous guy.  Sometimes I get so fucking marvelous that I shit all over my desk chair, with the sound of a dying diesel engine and the smell of Cincinnati in August.  Then I have to eat more chicken skin, or my marvelous reserves get too low and I start taking metaphysical bullshit all seriously, and Nurse Freeky has to whack me with the tenderizing hammer again.

I am undecided yet as to whether I should feel sorry for your desk chair or if it is secretly enjoying you shitting on it in all of your marvelousness. Probably the latter.
not quite there yet.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Cosine 5 on June 25, 2010, 06:00:41 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:25:02 PM
Quote from: Cosine 5 on June 25, 2010, 05:21:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:07:43 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 25, 2010, 05:04:13 PM
He's mishandling a theory that information may travel faster than light.

BALLS.  

He's trying to conflate "awareness" with "information".  Taking "quantum tunneling" and shitting some Zen garbage all over it.

DANCING WU LI MASTERS, YOU'RE ON IN 5!

This is marvelous.

I'm a marvelous guy.  Sometimes I get so fucking marvelous that I shit all over my desk chair, with the sound of a dying diesel engine and the smell of Cincinnati in August.  Then I have to eat more chicken skin, or my marvelous reserves get too low and I start taking metaphysical bullshit all seriously, and Nurse Freeky has to whack me with the tenderizing hammer again.

I am undecided yet as to whether I should feel sorry for your desk chair or if it is secretly enjoying you shitting on it in all of your marvelousness. Probably the latter.

Used to be the latter, back when I was a Holy Man.  Now I am universally hated by my coworkers and my office furniture, but I find that to be for the best.  My boss, however, has grown a sense of humor just in time for him to get promoted (now I have to break in a fresh one), and has ordered that my office bathroom be labeled "Roger's Vomitorium.  Enter at Own Risk."

He has also backed up the Janitor, when he refused to clean my bathroom out of my apparent "lack of human decency", though I rather suspect that he's just squeamish.  This annoys me, and I have yet to decide whether to clean it myself or let it turn into something vile.  This seems to be a self-solving dilemma.
Molon Lube

LMNO

Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:22:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 25, 2010, 05:18:55 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 25, 2010, 05:10:34 PM

Quantum inseperability.  Crudely stated, two particles that have been in contact with each other appear to act as if they are exchanging information at a distance instantaneously.  If you'd like, I can get technical.

Something you could clarify for me, if'n you don't mind. I've heard tell of this QUIP and was wondering - has science actually now recorded two tiny little pieces of stuff clearly exchanging over a distance like some kind of telepathy or teleportation or something or is my interpretation the usual case of - layman get wrong end of double-slit stick?

Cos if it's the former then surely this changes just about fucking everything?

Well, what does the math say, LMNO?  Because that's all you really need to know.

The math says that really weird stuff happens when things get really small.

LMNO, PhD
-Doctorate in explaining stuff.

Cosine 5

Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 06:05:21 PM
Quote from: Cosine 5 on June 25, 2010, 06:00:41 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:25:02 PM
Quote from: Cosine 5 on June 25, 2010, 05:21:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:07:43 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 25, 2010, 05:04:13 PM
He's mishandling a theory that information may travel faster than light.

BALLS.  

He's trying to conflate "awareness" with "information".  Taking "quantum tunneling" and shitting some Zen garbage all over it.

DANCING WU LI MASTERS, YOU'RE ON IN 5!

This is marvelous.

I'm a marvelous guy.  Sometimes I get so fucking marvelous that I shit all over my desk chair, with the sound of a dying diesel engine and the smell of Cincinnati in August.  Then I have to eat more chicken skin, or my marvelous reserves get too low and I start taking metaphysical bullshit all seriously, and Nurse Freeky has to whack me with the tenderizing hammer again.

I am undecided yet as to whether I should feel sorry for your desk chair or if it is secretly enjoying you shitting on it in all of your marvelousness. Probably the latter.

Used to be the latter, back when I was a Holy Man.  Now I am universally hated by my coworkers and my office furniture, but I find that to be for the best.  My boss, however, has grown a sense of humor just in time for him to get promoted (now I have to break in a fresh one), and has ordered that my office bathroom be labeled "Roger's Vomitorium.  Enter at Own Risk."

He has also backed up the Janitor, when he refused to clean my bathroom out of my apparent "lack of human decency", though I rather suspect that he's just squeamish.  This annoys me, and I have yet to decide whether to clean it myself or let it turn into something vile.  This seems to be a self-solving dilemma.

A Holy Man?
not quite there yet.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: LMNO on June 25, 2010, 06:06:43 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:22:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 25, 2010, 05:18:55 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 25, 2010, 05:10:34 PM

Quantum inseperability.  Crudely stated, two particles that have been in contact with each other appear to act as if they are exchanging information at a distance instantaneously.  If you'd like, I can get technical.

Something you could clarify for me, if'n you don't mind. I've heard tell of this QUIP and was wondering - has science actually now recorded two tiny little pieces of stuff clearly exchanging over a distance like some kind of telepathy or teleportation or something or is my interpretation the usual case of - layman get wrong end of double-slit stick?

Cos if it's the former then surely this changes just about fucking everything?

Well, what does the math say, LMNO?  Because that's all you really need to know.

The math says that really weird stuff happens when things get really small.

LMNO, PhD
-Doctorate in explaining stuff.

Then that really weird stuff really does happen.  If the math says it is so, it is so.  End of story.
Molon Lube

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: LMNO on June 25, 2010, 06:06:43 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:22:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 25, 2010, 05:18:55 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 25, 2010, 05:10:34 PM

Quantum inseperability.  Crudely stated, two particles that have been in contact with each other appear to act as if they are exchanging information at a distance instantaneously.  If you'd like, I can get technical.

Something you could clarify for me, if'n you don't mind. I've heard tell of this QUIP and was wondering - has science actually now recorded two tiny little pieces of stuff clearly exchanging over a distance like some kind of telepathy or teleportation or something or is my interpretation the usual case of - layman get wrong end of double-slit stick?

Cos if it's the former then surely this changes just about fucking everything?

Well, what does the math say, LMNO?  Because that's all you really need to know.

The math says that really weird stuff happens when things get really small.

LMNO, PhD
-Doctorate in explaining stuff.

A couple more recent experiments have indicated that the stuff may not even have to be quite as small as we once thought... we're still learning a lot.
- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson

LMNO

The math also says that the really weird stuff stop happening when stuff gets bigger.

P3nT4gR4m


I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Cosine 5 on June 25, 2010, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 06:05:21 PM
Quote from: Cosine 5 on June 25, 2010, 06:00:41 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:25:02 PM
Quote from: Cosine 5 on June 25, 2010, 05:21:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:07:43 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 25, 2010, 05:04:13 PM
He's mishandling a theory that information may travel faster than light.

BALLS.  

He's trying to conflate "awareness" with "information".  Taking "quantum tunneling" and shitting some Zen garbage all over it.

DANCING WU LI MASTERS, YOU'RE ON IN 5!

This is marvelous.

I'm a marvelous guy.  Sometimes I get so fucking marvelous that I shit all over my desk chair, with the sound of a dying diesel engine and the smell of Cincinnati in August.  Then I have to eat more chicken skin, or my marvelous reserves get too low and I start taking metaphysical bullshit all seriously, and Nurse Freeky has to whack me with the tenderizing hammer again.

I am undecided yet as to whether I should feel sorry for your desk chair or if it is secretly enjoying you shitting on it in all of your marvelousness. Probably the latter.

Used to be the latter, back when I was a Holy Man.  Now I am universally hated by my coworkers and my office furniture, but I find that to be for the best.  My boss, however, has grown a sense of humor just in time for him to get promoted (now I have to break in a fresh one), and has ordered that my office bathroom be labeled "Roger's Vomitorium.  Enter at Own Risk."

He has also backed up the Janitor, when he refused to clean my bathroom out of my apparent "lack of human decency", though I rather suspect that he's just squeamish.  This annoys me, and I have yet to decide whether to clean it myself or let it turn into something vile.  This seems to be a self-solving dilemma.

A Holy Man?

Yes, there used to be this "Good Reverend Roger" guy, but he choked on his own bile and spontaneously combusted, late last winter.

He was a silly fucker, who believed in the essential goodness of mankind - that one day, people would wake up to that essential goodness, the way people will suddenly realize that an argument is silly.  He was a dick, but he wanted to help people.

Then he died of stupidity, as described above, and then Doktor Howl had to step in and see that the bills got paid.  Dok's a little different, only cares about The Truth, knows that humans are fucked up primates, wants - in an abstract way - for them all to die or at least get the fuck off of his planet, and oh yeah, let's have a little HORRIBLE BADFUN while we're at it.

Molon Lube

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Ratatosk on June 25, 2010, 06:10:33 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 25, 2010, 06:06:43 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 25, 2010, 05:22:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Vitriol on June 25, 2010, 05:18:55 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 25, 2010, 05:10:34 PM

Quantum inseperability.  Crudely stated, two particles that have been in contact with each other appear to act as if they are exchanging information at a distance instantaneously.  If you'd like, I can get technical.

Something you could clarify for me, if'n you don't mind. I've heard tell of this QUIP and was wondering - has science actually now recorded two tiny little pieces of stuff clearly exchanging over a distance like some kind of telepathy or teleportation or something or is my interpretation the usual case of - layman get wrong end of double-slit stick?

Cos if it's the former then surely this changes just about fucking everything?

Well, what does the math say, LMNO?  Because that's all you really need to know.

The math says that really weird stuff happens when things get really small.

LMNO, PhD
-Doctorate in explaining stuff.

A couple more recent experiments have indicated that the stuff may not even have to be quite as small as we once thought... we're still learning a lot.

Ooh, could you add links here?
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=25604.msg889994#new
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Sentence or sentence fragment pending

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Doktor Howl

Quote from: LMNO on June 25, 2010, 06:10:56 PM
The math also says that the really weird stuff stop happening when stuff gets bigger.

The cat?  Should be the same even at a macroscopic level.
Molon Lube