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Started by Triple Zero, June 10, 2010, 12:39:30 PM

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Triple Zero

EFF: Remove Your Google Search History Before Google's New Privacy Policy Takes Effect

But, when I did this it seemed I never turned on web history in the first place, or maybe I opted out the minute I heard about it. Anyway, good to check before that data gets everywhere and one security hole in one google or youtube service can compromise everything.

On the other hand, I'd rather find a decent mail service so I can just remove the biggest chunk of data: my emails. Well I got one week, still :)
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e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

Faust

Quote from: Triple Zero on February 23, 2012, 10:41:34 AM
EFF: Remove Your Google Search History Before Google's New Privacy Policy Takes Effect

But, when I did this it seemed I never turned on web history in the first place, or maybe I opted out the minute I heard about it. Anyway, good to check before that data gets everywhere and one security hole in one google or youtube service can compromise everything.

On the other hand, I'd rather find a decent mail service so I can just remove the biggest chunk of data: my emails. Well I got one week, still :)

You never turned it on, neither had I, but my housemate had.
Once turned on it can never be turned off only "paused".
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Cain

I never turned it on either, but it was nice to confirm.

Juana

I don't remembering being asked if I wanted that at all. I paused it, though.
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Nephew Twiddleton

Do I automatically get a G+ account? I don't want one.
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Don Coyote

Quote from: That'll be five Twid, please. on February 27, 2012, 05:23:24 PM
Do I automatically get a G+ account? I don't want one.
Nope. At least not yet. I still don't have one on two of my gmail accounts.

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Pope Coyote of the Wolffnords on February 27, 2012, 05:54:00 PM
Quote from: That'll be five Twid, please. on February 27, 2012, 05:23:24 PM
Do I automatically get a G+ account? I don't want one.
Nope. At least not yet. I still don't have one on two of my gmail accounts.

Cool. So I basically wiped my search history and set up Firefox to block cookies from Google and shit.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
Sentence or sentence fragment pending

Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

Doktor Howl

I have nothing constructive to add to this thread.
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Cain

One downside I've founded with blocking Google cookies - that fucking annoying "Imma pre-emptively guess what you're typing" feature starts working again.

Triple Zero

Setting a site-specific rule to block JavaScript on the Google Search domains would probably put a stop to that. I bet NoScript can do it.
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e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

AFK

Wait, you mean that isn't Google Gremlins burrowing into my brain and telling the compute what I'm thinking?  Way to ruin the mysticism for me guys!
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Triple Zero

It is, but they are summoned by JavaScript incantations and are attracted by cookies.
Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

AFK

So isn't my wife. 

:rimshot:

Sorry, as you were. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Cain

http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2012/03/doj-asks-court-to-keep-secret-any-partnership-between-google-nsa.html

QuoteThe Justice Department is defending the government's refusal to discuss—or even acknowledge the existence of—any cooperative research and development agreement between Google and the National Security Agency.

The Washington based advocacy group Electronic Privacy Information Center sued in federal district court here to obtain documents about any such agreement between the Internet search giant and the security agency.

The NSA responded to the suit with a so-called "Glomar" response in which the agency said it could neither confirm nor deny whether any responsive records exist. U.S. District Judge Richard Leon in Washington sided with the government last July.

A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit is scheduled to hear the dispute March 20.

EPIC filed a Freedom of Information Act request in early 2010, noting media reports at the time that the NSA and Google had agreed to a partnership following the cyber attacks in China that year against Google.

EPIC asked for, among other things, communication between the NSA and Google about Gmail and Google's "decision to fail to routinely encrypt" messages before Jan. 13, 2010.

The NSA's response to the request for records noted that the agency "works with a broad range of commercial partners and research associations" to ensure the availability of secure information systems. The agency, however, refused to confirm or deny any partnership with Google.

The security agency said it routinely monitors vulnerabilities in commercial technology and cryptographic products because the government relies heavily on private companies for word processing systems and e-mail software.

"If NSA determines that certain security vulnerabilities or malicious attacks pose a threat to U.S. government information systems, NSA may take action," DOJ Civil Division lawyers Catherine Hancock and Douglas Letter said in a brief in the D.C. Circuit in January.

DOJ's legal team said that acknowledging whether NSA and Google formed a partnership from a cyber attack would illuminate whether the government "considered the alleged attack to be of consequence for critical U.S. government information systems."

NSA said it cannot provide documents—or confirm their existence—because the information would alert adversaries about the security agency's priorities, threat assessments and countermeasures.

DOJ said media reports about the alleged Google partnership with NSA do not constitute official acknowledgement.

"I'm not saying the NSA works with Google...but the NSA works with Google."

Faust

http://gizmodo.com/5893145/google-cozies-up-to-the-pentagon

QuoteOn Monday, the Defense Department's best-known geek announced that she was leaving the Pentagon for a job at Google. It was an unexpected move: Washington and Mountain View don't trade top executives very often. But it shouldn't come as a complete surprise. The internet colossus has had a long and deeply complicated relationship with America's military and intelligence communities. Depending on the topic, the time, and the players involved, the Pentagon and the Plex can be customers, business partners, adversaries, or wary allies. Recruiting the director of Darpa to join Google was just the latest move in this intricate dance between behemoths.

To the company's critics in Congress and in the conservative legal community, Google has become a puppet master in Obama's Washington, with Plex executives attending exclusive state dinners and backing White House tech policy initiatives. "Like Halliburton in the previous administration," warned the National Legal and Policy Center in 2010, "Google has an exceptionally close relationship with the current administration." To the company's foes outside the U.S. - especially in Beijing - Google is viewed as a virtual extension of the U.S. government: "the White House's Google," as one state-sponsored Chinese magazine put it.

But in the halls of the Pentagon and America's intelligence agencies, Google casts a relatively small shadow, at least compared to those of big defense contractors like Lockheed Martin, Booz Allen Hamilton, and Northrop Grumman, and SAIC. Yes, a small handful of one-time Googlers joined the Obama administration after the 2008 election, but most of those people are now back in the private sector. Sure, Google turned to the network defense specialists at the National Security Agency, when the company became the target of a sophisticated hacking campaign in 2009. The Lockheeds and the Northrops of the world share with the Pentagon information about viruses and malware in their networks every day.

Government work is, after all, only a minuscule part of Google's business. And that allows the Plex to take a nuanced, many-pronged approach when dealing with spooks and generals. (The company did not respond to requests to comment for this article.)

Google has a federally focused sales force, marketing its search appliances and its apps to the government. They've sold millions of dollars' worth of gear to the National Security Agency's secretive eavesdroppers and to the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency's satellite watchmen. And they're making major inroads in the mobile market, where Android has become the operating system of choice for the military's burgeoning smartphone experiments. But unlike other businesses operating in the Beltway, Google doesn't often customize its wares for its Washington clients. It's a largely take-it-or-leave-it approach to marketing.

"They shit all over any request for customization," says a former Google executive. "The attitude is: 'we know how to build software. If you don't know how to use it, you're an idiot.'"

Some of that software, though, only made it to Mountain View after an infusion of government cash. Take the mapping firm Keyhole, backed by In-Q-Tel, the investment arm of the Central Intelligence Agency. Google bought Keyhole in 2004 - and then turned it into the backbone for Google Earth, which has become a must-have tool in all sorts of imagery analysis cells. When I visited a team of Air Force targeteers in 2009, a Google Earth map highlighting all the known hospitals, mosques, graveyards, and schools in Afghanistan helped them pick which buildings to bomb or not.

Around the same time, the investment arms of Google and the CIA both put cash into Recorded Future, a company that monitors social media in real time - and tries to use that information to predict upcoming events.

"Turns out that there are several natural places to take an ability to harvest and analyze the internet to predict future events," e-mails Recorded Future CEO Christopher Ahlberg. "There's search, where any innovation that provides improved relevance is helpful; and intelligence, which at some level is all about predicting events and their implications. (Finance is a third.) That made Google Ventures and In-Q-Tel two very natural investors that provides us hooks into the worlds of search and intelligence."
The government and Google have more than a mutual interest in mining publicly available data. The feds ask Google to turn over information about its customers. Constantly. Last fall, the Justice Department demanded that the company give up the IP addresses of Wikileaks supporters. During the first six months of 2011, U.S. government agencies sent Google 5,950 criminal investigation requests for data on Google users and services, as our sister blog Threat Level noted at the time. That's an average of 31 a day, and Google said it complied with 93 percent of those requests.

Google is pretty much the only company that publishes the number of requests it receives - a tactic which sometimes causes teeth to grind in D.C. But it's essential to the well-being of Plex's core business: its consumer search advertising. Google, as we all know, keeps a titanic amount of information about every aspect of our online lives. Customers largely have trusted the company so far, because of the quality of its products, and because there's some sense that the Plex and the Pentagon aren't swapping data wholesale. These small acts of resistance maintain that perceived barrier.

Not long ago - in the middle of the last decade, say - Google held an almost talismanic power inside military and intelligence agencies. Google made searching the web simple and straightforward. Surely, the government ought to be able to do the same for its databases.

"You kept hearing: 'how come this can't work like Google,'" says Bob Gourley, who served as the Defense Intelligence Agency's Chief Technology Officer from 2005 to 2007. "But after a while the technologists got educated. You don't really want Google."

Or at least, not in that way. Even complex web searches are single strands of information. Intelligence analysts are hunting for interlocking chains of events: Person A in the same cafe as person B, who chats with person C, who gives some cash to person D. Those queries were so intricate, government engineers had to program each one in by hand, not so long ago. But lately, more sophisticated tools have come onto the market; the troops and spooks have gotten better at integrating their databases. Google's products are still used, of course. But it's just one vendor among many.
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