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Started by BadBeast, May 19, 2010, 05:24:24 AM

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BadBeast

And another,
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Hello BadBeast is pretending to be a
It has been reported that you have posted content to Yahoo! Answers in
violation of ourCommunity Guidelines or Terms of Service. As a result,
your content has been deleted. Community Guidelines and TOS help to keep
Yahoo! Answers a safer and more useful community, so all users must
follow these rules
Question: Don't you think it's good to see Jamaican Dancehall?
Question Details: taking a more spiritual direction? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W36rY1qXTbA
2010-01-12 09:05:36Additional
Well, if it's a quick hit of Ska you're afta Mo, you should have a bit
of a go on this then, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSNKVkyq3Ew
Violation Reason:
Violating the Community Guidelines or TOS may result in the deletion of
the content, deduction of points or termination of your Answers account
without warning. In extreme cases, violations may result in the
termination of your Yahoo! ID, and consequently, access to all other
Yahoo! services. If you feel this content was removed in error, please
contact the Answers Customer Care team and tell us why. For more
information, please see the Yahoo! Terms of Service and the Answers
Community Guidelines.
Regards,
Yahoo! Customer Care

My Appeal

I am respectfully requesting that you look again at the removal of my
question.
It doesn't break any of the Community Guidelines, or Terms of service.
(The terms of which, I am well familiarised with) It follows the
question and answer format, contains no disrespectful or abusive
content, or insulting of other users, nor does it refer to any sexually
explicit subject, does not address any individual, group, or
controversial event. It doesn't  incite other users to break any Law, or
rule, contains no link to any commercial venture, or irrelevant or
contraversial  material. There is no malware, or spamming involved, and
indeed, the violation notice despatched to me, is unable to even give
any reason for the removal.

(quote;  Violation Reason:  ?Violating the Community Guidelines or TOS
may result in the deletion of the content, deduction of points or
termination of your Answers account without warning. In extreme cases,
violations may result in the termination of your Yahoo! ID,  etc,)

So it seems that either the reason for removal was mistakenly omitted
from the VN, or that your abuse team can't actually find any Violation
Reason for the removal either.
Also, there is the matter that i was sent two VN's for this Question,
and docked twice the amount of points, so could you please rectify this
mistake too.
Thank you for your diligence, and swiftness in bringing this matter to
my attention, I trust also, you will employ the same efficiency and
speed of action, in rectifying the matter.
Your sincerly,  BadBeast.
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Their response

DearBadBeast,

Thanks for writing to Yahoo! UK Customer Care.

We have reviewed your request and have restored your points (10) on
Yahoo! Answers. We apologise for any inconvenience.

Thanks again for writing to UK Yahoo! Customer Care.

Regards,

Franziska
The Yahoo! UKIE Answers Customer Care Team

:musak: :musak: :musak: :banana:  :goatse: :banana:





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"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

BadBeast

And again.

Hello BadBeast

It has been reported that you have posted content to Yahoo! Answers in
violation of our Community Guidelines or Terms of Service. As a result,
your content has been deleted. Community Guidelines and TOS help to keep
Yahoo! Answers a safer and more useful community, so all users must
follow these rules

Deleted Question: Which of your contacts would you be least surprised
to find sat outside your bedroom window,
in a tree, dressed as a Pirate, with a pair of binoculars, and a box of kleenex, at 3.30 am?

Violation Reason: Misuse of the question and answer format

In Yahoo! Answers you must phrase questions in question format, and your
answer must attempt to answer the question. Questions or answers must be
written in a comprehensible way, and must be written in the language
specific to the Answers site to which it is uploaded. You may not post
conversational content without an attempt to post a meaningful question
or answer a question or otherwise misuse the question and answer format.

Violating the Community Guidelines or TOS may result in the deletion of
the content, deduction of points or termination of your Answers account
without warning. In extreme cases, violations may result in the
termination of your Yahoo! ID, and consequently, access to all other
Yahoo! services. If you feel this content was removed in error, please
contact the Answers Customer Care team and tell us why. For more
information, please see the Yahoo! Terms of Service and the Answers
Community Guidelines.

Regards,
Yahoo! Customer Care
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First appeal.

I have just recieved a violation notice informing me that a question I
posted has been removed. The notice goes on to inform me that any
question posted must be in question format, (grammatically and
contextually, it conformed to the accepted definition of "Question"
without a doubt) It then went on to inform me that all questions must be
written in a comprehensible way. Well, I have a Masters Degree in
English Language, from King's College, Oxford, and I know how to present
a simple question, in a way that any Ten year old child can understand.
Also, it reminds me that my post must be in the language specific to the
answer site, to which the post was uploaded. Unless I am very much
mistaken, that Language would be English. As was the question in
dispute. It then  tells me I may not post "contraversial content,
without an attempt to post a meaningful question". Well, I hardly
consider sitting in a tree, dressed as a Pirate, as contraversial, do
you? A
little surreal perhaps, but hardly contraversial. And as to whether or
not my question was meaninful, there were over twenty answers to the
question, in a fairly short amount of time, so obviously some people
found it meaningful enough to merit a response. It is on these grounds
that I
submit this appeal, to have my material re-instated, as I cannot see how
it contravenes any of the stated terms of service, or community
guidelines. I will be happy to accept the removal of this material, if
you can show me, specifically where the aforesaid question falls foul of
any stated rule. I have pasted the original notice of violation under
this email, so you can easily access any details you may need, and
please feel free to contact me, if there is anything else you need to
know.
I have followed the instructions you sent, regarding your appeal
process, so I do not expect to recieve your automated response,
informing me that you cannot enter into personal dialogue over
individual deletions, then listing the terms and conditions, (of which I
am very much aware)
Yours sincerly,  BadBeast

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Answer from Yahoo,


Thanks for writing to Yahoo! Answers Customer Care.

Thank you for your query regarding the Question and Answer content that
was recently removed from Yahoo! Answers.

We cannot enter into personal dialogue over individual deletions,
however content is generally deleted if it is in violation of the
Answers' community guidelines.

Some of the reasons that questions and answers might be deleted include:


"    Posting Abusive Content (or links to content, including photos):
Including referencing the harming of minors, violence, racism, abuse,
threats, slander, violation of any applicable laws, profanity, vulgarity
or sexually explicit language, that glorification of self-harm, suicide,
anorexia, bulimia, commercial or advertising, rant, posting personal
ads, violating the Yahoo! Answers Community Guidelines or the Yahoo!
Terms of Service in any manner.
"    Chatting or Personal Communications
"    Point-Gaming: Posting content for the explicit purpose of gaining
points, trading points, or soliciting others for points or otherwise
"game" the Yahoo! Answers points system
"    Posting of Commercial Activity
"    Posting Repeated Postings: You may not post similar or identical
postings.

We hope to draw your attention to the product guidelines and to
cooperate with our efforts to make Yahoo! Answers a valuable knowledge
search product.

Please note that if your question does not receive any answers within
the 4-day open period it will expire and be deleted automatically.

Additionally, when an abusive question is deleted all answers associated
with that question are removed. In this instance, no points are deducted
from deleted answers.

Thanks again for writing to  Yahoo! Answers Customer Care.


Regards,

Amber Taylor

The Yahoo! Answers team

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I WASN'T HAVING THAT! They hadn't even read it! So,


Might I draw this to the attention of your appeals department. This is
the second time i have appealed this deletion, and it seems you have
neglected to either re-instate my posting, or provide any reason why it
was deleted.Or, indeed, even look at my letter, as I specifically
requested that it did not just get an automated  letter back. And what
did i get? My appeal sent straight back to me, with the Terms and
Conditions, (none of which were broken by my original posting)a response
that I specifically
requested you not to send. A DETAIL YOU MAY HAVE MISSED, DUE TO THE FACT
YOU NEVER EVEN READ MY EMAIL! If you are going to claim that there is
some kind of Appeal Process going on here, the least you can do would be
to do me the courtesy of READING MY CORRESPONDENCE.Before you dismiss it
out of hand. Now, if you are not the appeals department, can you kindly
forward this email to the correct address, and make sure you take the
trouble to remove your own address from the VN emails, to avoid
confusion in the future. If you are the appeals department, THEN CAN YOU
KINDLY DO THE JOB YOU ARE CLAIMING TO DO, AND PUT MY APPEAL THROUGH SOME
KIND OF SATISFACTORY SEMBLANCE OF AN APPEAL PROCESS! Why pretend you are
going through an appeal process when you are not?

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Could hardly believe it when they upheld my appeal.

Hello, BadBeast,

Thanks for writing to Yahoo! UKIE Answers Customer Care.

We have reviewed your request and have restored the content that was
deleted on Yahoo! Answers. We have also restored your points. We
apologise for any inconvenience.

Thanks again for writing to Yahoo! UKIE Answers Customer Care.

Regards,

Rachel Smith

The Yahoo! UKIE Answers Customer Care Team







"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

Adios

I prefer the intelligent troll. Either that or spag the board with tub girl.

BadBeast

Quote from: Hawk on May 31, 2010, 12:36:59 AM
I prefer the intelligent troll. Either that or spag the board with tub girl.

Photobucket took my Tubgirl down!
But at least Y/A haven't managed to keep me out yet. So there's plenty of material for this thread.
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

BadBeast

"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

Triple Zero

Ex-Soviet Bloc Sexual Attack Swede of Tomorrow™
e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

INFORMATION SO POWERFUL, YOU ACTUALLY NEED LESS.

BadBeast

Thank you very much. There are some great Trolls on Y/A though. They have been having a real purge for the last few months, so the survivors tend to get a bit wary. I lost five accounts, (one of them a level 6) in three hours not so long ago. Along with another 40 odd other people, we went on a Safari into the "Cats" section. And were totally unprepared for the brutality of the Regime in there. A more ruthless and vengeful body of people I have yet to encounter. They may even develop in time, to be the Fourth Reich. Not only did they take all our primary accounts, but also our contacts lists, all their accounts, and every backup account they could find. It was like some sort of Feline Supremicist Pogrom. Haven't been near the Cats since. They have an elite excursion and assassination squad that could put Mossad to shame. Grudgy as fuck, too. Worse than even the Pregnant women, for taking offence. The question about how to get dried semen out of a cat's  fur was my particular favourite though. That or the breastmilk one.
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

Cramulus

fuck - sounds like cat owners have finally had enough of our bullshit!

BadBeast

Thing is, it seems they are just as prone to infighting over issues like "If let your cat go out or not"   Or "To de-claw or not"  And some of the most tenacious cat Trolls, have kitteh screen names, which confuses the Cat people. Their sense of humour is non existent, and the thing that really gets to them is the knowledge, that they will never, ever get the joke. And if they do, the fear of finding out they'd been the joke all along would finish them off.
Evil does indeed have a face, and that face is Feline.
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

BadBeast

"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

BadBeast

And here's today's violation/appeal details.

Original VN.

Hi Judge BadBeast,

The answer you gave on Yahoo! Answers was reported by the Answers community:

"It "makes it really hard" for me, y'know, all that smut, what's with that? If people have a "bona" fide question, they should "put it in" a proper and legible way. "Cumming on" to total strangers is kinda slutty, doncha think? Yahoo should "take them in hand" and get every "jerk off" the site for good! Because it's so "hard on" other users, who obey the rules!"

This answer has been removed. You may not have realised this, but all answers submitted on Yahoo! Answers must comply with the Answers Community Guidelines.

If you believe that your answer does not violate the Answers Community Guidelines, and would like to appeal the removal of your answer, you can have your case reviewed by Answers Customer Care. You have 7 days to submit your appeal.

Thanks,
Yahoo! Answers Team

So, of course, I appealed.

Dear Team, In what way, exactly have I violated the Terms and Conditions this time? Only I couldn't fail to see there was no 'Reason for Violation Notice' included. If you read my post, out loud, you can see there is nothing profane, explicit, offensive, or contraversial in it, so please put it back, and stop interfering with my bloody content! Thank you very much!
Badbeast.


And I just got the Appeal decision

Hi BadBeast,

Thank you for taking the time to submit an appeal. Upon review, we found the following answer was not in violation of the Answers Community Guidelines:

"It "makes it really hard" for me, y'know, all that smut, what's with that? If people have a "bona" fide question, they should "put it in" a proper and legible way. "Cumming on" to total strangers is kinda slutty, doncha think? Yahoo should "take them in hand" and get every "jerk off" the site for good! Because it's so "hard on" other users, who obey the rules!"The Yahoo! Answers Team regrets that your answer was wrongfully reported by the Answers community. Your answer has been reposted to Yahoo! Answers, and we are sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.
As a result of your appeal, the people who reported your answer will have less influence when reporting abuse in the future..


Thanks,
Yahoo! Answers Team


I love winning appeals from these dropkicks.   :lulz:

"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4