Red Cross/similar organizations in the street

[Cain]

Yes, and that.

NWC, I usually let them try out new pitches and things on me.  I did this for my University's Christian Society a lot because...well, if you'd see the female membership, you'd spend your free time with them as well.  So critiquing, in a helpful and positive way, how they do their job.

[Doktor Howl]

NWC, you want a thread split?

[Nephew Twiddleton]

A friend of mine used to do the long-lost friend angle until it backfired on him. He actually did run into a long-lost friend and didn't remember him.  

I like this idea, and it's something that I sometimes just wing. There was this guy fundraising for the DNC and he was standing on a fire hydrant, saying how he was stuck up there and he's afraid of heights. I told him that it was ok, it only looks higher up than it is because he was taller than most. My roommate does this sort of thing, so I have a certain amount of respect for it. He works for MassPIRG I think.

[NWC]

NWC, you want a thread split?

Nah, the same discussions are bound to come up anyway.

I like this idea, and it's something that I sometimes just wing.

Yeah usually I just wing it, like today, but I figured someone on here is bound to have a damn good idea.

Yes, and that.

NWC, I usually let them try out new pitches and things on me.  I did this for my University's Christian Society a lot because...well, if you'd see the female membership, you'd spend your free time with them as well.  So critiquing, in a helpful and positive way, how they do their job.

I would have asked for this girl's number if I didn't have a girlfriend. I mean, she wasn't a model, but she was cute and very friendly.

[Richter]

Preach the way  of Khorne to them.  
"Donations" collected for the Blood God all go 100% to the Blood God, as does any blood spilled or life taken, regardless if it was done in his name or not.  Can the Red Cross boast that sort of efficiency?

Also, if you're canvasing and collecting in a metropolitan area, likely one (or both) of two things is likely happeneing:
-a percentage goes to getting people organized and on the street.  Clothed, watered, and equiped with paperwork
-a fee or soemthign is required to participate as a volunteer form each rep.

If you are out collecting in Khorne's name, ONE thing happens
-You collect fucking heads.  It ALL honors Khorne.  You only have to bring you own axe. (BYOA)

(Pussy spellcasters need not apply.  If you can't get up in someone's grill to do Khorne's work, stay home.)

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

You could ask them if you can join their team and ask them how much they earn. I once worked for the Red Cross and I've earned circa 70% of the money the people gave me! Often there are quite attractive provision systems. Almost nothing of those 5 Dollars go to the child soldiers etc.
You can say that the Red Cross is selling good conscience on the streets. So ask them about the quality of their good conscience, and if it beats the good conscience of World Vision etc...

You missed the point. I'm aware that not all of the money goes to whatever they say it goes it. I knew that when I agreed.

But I had a great conversation! That in itself was worth the 5 euros.

This is not a thread about how to make them feel bad about themselves or to make them go away. If I wanted to do that, I would just tell them I don't speak French. This is about making people laugh/smile/MAKING PEOPLES' DAYS MORE INTERESTING. Not depressing. I don't need depressing. I don't want to be abrasive.

You have to remember that Weltburger is driven to be antisocial.  He has a very limited set of responses to anything, and they all have to do with making sure nobody likes him.

There's probably a name for that (making sure everyone hates you, presumably out of a total lack of self-esteem), but I'm too lazy to google it.  Nigel might know, she's a veritable font of information on screwed up headcases, and she has helped me out on many occasions, in describing the horrible shitnecks I work with.

I tried, but couldn't find anything... I am confident that eventually I will, though. I am thinking of it as a fear of or aversion to social acceptance, much like a fear of success.

[Cain]

There is no particular name for it that I'm aware of, but the link between low self-esteem and antisocial behaviour seems well-established

http://pss.sagepub.com/content/16/4/328.abstract
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V9F-3VV41KB-J&_user=10&_coverDate=10%2F31%2F1996&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1394202341&_rerunOrigin=scholar.google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=8007bcc55d3163b9b747b36250755fda
http://www.jstor.org/stable/2095720?cookieSet=1

When I did my training here, we were told to assume, when lacking of any other evidence, that when a kid is acting out and being disruptive it is likely self-esteem related.

[Triple Zero]

I recently came to the realisation that I should cut these people off with their promo-talk first and ask if they're looking for a periodic donation, or whether I can just donate 2-3 euros in cash.

Because most of them want your bank account and sign you for a periodic transaction.

Which I never do, because I like to spread my donation among multiple causes and I don't need to automate my charity.

I learned that bit with the Haiti earthquake fund. Saw all the news, realized I could totally spare it and donated 35 euros. But then the next day I read a blog artice that argued, "there is lots of horrible things happening in the world every day, and there are charity organisations that deserve to get just as much, except they dont happen to be in the eye of the media. So if you feel like donating to a big popular current media charity, consider donating just as much to lesser-known, just-as-deserving charities".
Except that I thought 35e was enough already and didn't want to spend another 35 right away, so instead I've been giving random small amounts to random charity things. As varied topics as possible, as long as I thought they were doing "good".

[NWC]

I think the thing about the bank accounts is so they can show substantially, with numbers and shit, that people support them. The girl signed me up to donate 2,50/month, and she said it's no problem if I cancel after one month or two, it just really helps them to show that there's another account supporting them. A vote of solidarity with your money, if you will. Also, because they get subsidized based on donations(the government pays them triple[according to the girl] what someone on the street does), the records probably need to be pretty well kept.

I can't afford to give very often at all, but the fact that I show my support(put your money where your mouth is) and my 5 euros will get quadrupled made it really seem worth it. Plus, like I said, the girl was really cool 

Otherwise yeah I'm hesitant to give my bank account #, cos the paranoids are always watching you.

[LMNO]

There is no fucking way I'm giving my bank account number to some spag on the street with a clipboard and a T-shirt.


That is all.

[bugmenоt]

FUCK THE RED CROSS ITS A HIDDEN SWASTIKA!!!

[AFK]

There is no fucking way I'm giving my bank account number to some spag on the street with a clipboard and a T-shirt.


That is all.

THIS.  All of these operations should have home bases/offices.  That is where your donation goes, after meeting them in person and making sure they are legit.  Anyone who asks me for money whether it be on the street or over the phone I simply ask them if they can mail me some information about the organization and what the money is for.  If they can't comply with that simple request, then no dice.

[Triple Zero]

I think the thing about the bank accounts is so they can show substantially, with numbers and shit, that people support them. The girl signed me up to donate 2,50/month, and she said it's no problem if I cancel after one month or two, it just really helps them to show that there's another account supporting them. A vote of solidarity with your money, if you will. Also, because they get subsidized based on donations(the government pays them triple[according to the girl] what someone on the street does), the records probably need to be pretty well kept.

I can't afford to give very often at all, but the fact that I show my support(put your money where your mouth is) and my 5 euros will get quadrupled made it really seem worth it. Plus, like I said, the girl was really cool 

Otherwise yeah I'm hesitant to give my bank account #, cos the paranoids are always watching you.

nah it's just that I know I'll forget to cancel after a month or two.

I get enough opportunity to donate (in total) what I'd like to spend in cash anyway.