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Started by Adios, August 03, 2010, 04:04:39 PM

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Nephew Twiddleton

I wish you luck man, it's never easy. Counting is a good thing if you are going to drink. Another thing is to gauge your mood going into it. Other than that, I really don't know what to say.
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Triple Zero

Quote from: Charley Brown on August 03, 2010, 04:04:39 PM
I am a drunk. Sometimes I can be a very mean kind of drunk.

It's the blackouts that bother me the most. From all accounts on the outside I function like I am sober. But then the next day I have to e told what I did. I have even said hurtful things to my wife, who I adore.

Why can't I just pass out like normal people? At least then I wouldn't cause harm. But, no, I can't.

This is the one part of myself that I detest, and to any and all, I apologize for being that way. Things I say are meaningless when I am like that.

Maybe I need to get help.

Sucks to hear that, Charley.

But I accept your apologies (not that you offended me btw). I hope you can stay clean now!

Is there anything we can do? Like, maybe if you're drunk and posting, you'll let us know and we can link you to this thread, or something?



And what does it mean to "count"? Count the amount of drinks you have?
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Dysfunctional Cunt

I thought a lot more on this after I got home CB.  I had a bit of time and honestly you came to mind when I was taking my 7 nightly pills for the array of insanity that my body has going on with it and it hit me, you're backing up pain meds with alcohol right? 

That makes it all the more hard to quit.  Because not only are you dealing with the mental bullshit, you also have the physical side effects on top of the pain you are in to begin with.  So one of the first things I hope you are able to do is find yourself a good pain specialist.  They can get you on a set medicinal regime along with possibly PT or maybe even massage therapy.

I don't know the rules where you are, but another option for the pain is acupuncture.  A couple of years after the RA diagnosis, my shoulders and elbows were to the point I could barely bend them.  Now mind you I was over a hundred pounds overweight, but, I still had to survive to lose the weight.  I went to an acupuncturist and it was amazing what he did.

I know a lot of people think that it's all in your head, and my answer is this, I don't care where it comes from as long as it works!

I'm with Net in that I'm not a fan of AA.  They tend to turn people into selfish assholes.  Many of whom I liked a lot better as drunks.  There are other programs and such.  Plus you have the added bonus of a wonderful partner in your lady who is very strong, so I'm sure you have already sat down with her and discussed the options.  She's a smart cookie, listen to her!  You two have overcome so much bullshit, look at this as just another bump in the road. 

But seriously, I truly think if you address the pain issue, the other problems will be much easier to deal with!!!

Or if y'all just need a break, you guys can come over here to StL and we'll go city snipe hunting  :wink: We can use the crack dealers down the street as bait, or for target practice.  That always makes one feel better!!!

Adios

Quote from: Triple Zero on August 04, 2010, 09:39:00 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 03, 2010, 04:04:39 PM
I am a drunk. Sometimes I can be a very mean kind of drunk.

It's the blackouts that bother me the most. From all accounts on the outside I function like I am sober. But then the next day I have to e told what I did. I have even said hurtful things to my wife, who I adore.

Why can't I just pass out like normal people? At least then I wouldn't cause harm. But, no, I can't.

This is the one part of myself that I detest, and to any and all, I apologize for being that way. Things I say are meaningless when I am like that.

Maybe I need to get help.

Sucks to hear that, Charley.

But I accept your apologies (not that you offended me btw). I hope you can stay clean now!

Is there anything we can do? Like, maybe if you're drunk and posting, you'll let us know and we can link you to this thread, or something?



And what does it mean to "count"? Count the amount of drinks you have?

Yes, counting how many drinks, that way I tell myself to stop at a certain number, usually before I get to ten.

Adios

Quote from: Khara on August 04, 2010, 02:35:52 PM
I thought a lot more on this after I got home CB.  I had a bit of time and honestly you came to mind when I was taking my 7 nightly pills for the array of insanity that my body has going on with it and it hit me, you're backing up pain meds with alcohol right? 

That makes it all the more hard to quit.  Because not only are you dealing with the mental bullshit, you also have the physical side effects on top of the pain you are in to begin with.  So one of the first things I hope you are able to do is find yourself a good pain specialist.  They can get you on a set medicinal regime along with possibly PT or maybe even massage therapy.

I don't know the rules where you are, but another option for the pain is acupuncture.  A couple of years after the RA diagnosis, my shoulders and elbows were to the point I could barely bend them.  Now mind you I was over a hundred pounds overweight, but, I still had to survive to lose the weight.  I went to an acupuncturist and it was amazing what he did.

I know a lot of people think that it's all in your head, and my answer is this, I don't care where it comes from as long as it works!

I'm with Net in that I'm not a fan of AA.  They tend to turn people into selfish assholes.  Many of whom I liked a lot better as drunks.  There are other programs and such.  Plus you have the added bonus of a wonderful partner in your lady who is very strong, so I'm sure you have already sat down with her and discussed the options.  She's a smart cookie, listen to her!  You two have overcome so much bullshit, look at this as just another bump in the road. 

But seriously, I truly think if you address the pain issue, the other problems will be much easier to deal with!!!

Or if y'all just need a break, you guys can come over here to StL and we'll go city snipe hunting  :wink: We can use the crack dealers down the street as bait, or for target practice.  That always makes one feel better!!!

Well thanks.

I drink to numb my mind to sleep. (I think)  I have an appointment with my doctor to ask about a pot prescription since it puts me to sleep quicker.

I have recently received an injection in my shoulder and am currently in PT for it.

Of course there are no injections for everything else.  :lulz:

Triple Zero

Quote from: Khara on August 04, 2010, 02:35:52 PM
I don't know the rules where you are, but another option for the pain is acupuncture.  A couple of years after the RA diagnosis, my shoulders and elbows were to the point I could barely bend them.  Now mind you I was over a hundred pounds overweight, but, I still had to survive to lose the weight.  I went to an acupuncturist and it was amazing what he did.

I know a lot of people think that it's all in your head, and my answer is this, I don't care where it comes from as long as it works!

It's hard to do medical research on acupuncture, because you can't really design a proper placebo for it. Because you'd know if you were in the control group from the fact that you don't have needles stuck in you. At least that's what Wikipedia says on the matter. Which makes me wonder, because following the same line of reasoning you cannot prove the efficacy of massage therapy. Or for that matter, setting straight of a broken bone.

One thing I heard from a friend studying medicine (sorry got no citation) is that they are in fact able to produce a repeatable and observable effect with acupuncture: if you put the needles on the proper points on an arm, the arm goes limp (until you remove the needles). It doesn't need energies or auras, it just needs the needles at the right places and every doctor could do it. The question is of course that this is not particularly useful for anything, and how to do repeatable observable useful things, like pain relief. But at least it shows that it does something, and it does it via a mechanism that they don't quite fully understand (the human body is really complex like that).
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Nephew Twiddleton

What was usually your average before cutting yourself off at 10 and how often would you drink?
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
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Adios

Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on August 04, 2010, 03:25:45 PM
What was usually your average before cutting yourself off at 10 and how often would you drink?

I drink every night and go through a gallon of whiskey a week.

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Charley Brown on August 04, 2010, 03:32:46 PM
Quote from: Nephew Twiddleton on August 04, 2010, 03:25:45 PM
What was usually your average before cutting yourself off at 10 and how often would you drink?

I drink every night and go through a gallon of whiskey a week.

You're definitely going to want to step it down gradually. You'll still be binge drinking every night for awhile, but alcohol withdrawl is nothing to toy with. 10 is probably good for now, your doctor will probably be able to give you better advice than I can though.
Strange and Terrible Organ Laminator of Yesterday's Heavy Scene
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Soy El Vaquero Peludo de Oro

TIM AM I, PRIMARY OF THE EXTRA-ATMOSPHERIC SIMIANS

Adios

Doctors appointment is Friday 13th. First open day.

BadBeast

"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

Adios


BadBeast

Good. Superstition brings bad luck.
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4

Adios

According to folklorists, there is no written evidence for a "Friday the 13th" superstition before the 19th century.[4][5][6] The earliest known documented reference in English occurs in an 1869 biography of Gioachino Rossini:

    [Rossini] was surrounded to the last by admiring and affectionate friends; and if it be true that, like so many other Italians, he regarded Friday as an unlucky day, and thirteen as an unlucky number, it is remarkable that on Friday, the 13th of November, he died.[7]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_the_13th

BadBeast

Srsly though, good move.
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconaissance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul" ~ Nigel


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4