Prop 8 Watch. Grab your popcorn, kids!

[Cain]

Liberals are fighting for those rights?  Looks like they promise to fight for those rights, get into power and say "whoops, we talked with the GOP, because bipatisanship and stuff, and it's not really feasible right now.  Maybe once we've balanced the budget, won the war on terror, ended the recession and give every American child a puppy we can get around to solving your problem."  At least at the Congressional/Executive level.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

Liberals are fighting for those rights?  Looks like they promise to fight for those rights, get into power and say "whoops, we talked with the GOP, because bipatisanship and stuff, and it's not really feasible right now.  Maybe once we've balanced the budget, won the war on terror, ended the recession and give every American child a puppy we can get around to solving your problem."  At least at the Congressional/Executive level.

IAWTC!

Democrats say a lot and deliver little.

[Doktor Howl]

Liberals are fighting for those rights?  Looks like they promise to fight for those rights, get into power and say "whoops, we talked with the GOP, because bipatisanship and stuff, and it's not really feasible right now.  Maybe once we've balanced the budget, won the war on terror, ended the recession and give every American child a puppy we can get around to solving your problem."  At least at the Congressional/Executive level.

Since when are the democrats liberals?

[Phox]

Liberals are fighting for those rights?  Looks like they promise to fight for those rights, get into power and say "whoops, we talked with the GOP, because bipatisanship and stuff, and it's not really feasible right now.  Maybe once we've balanced the budget, won the war on terror, ended the recession and give every American child a puppy we can get around to solving your problem."  At least at the Congressional/Executive level.

Don't confuse Democrats with  (American) Liberals. Not all of them are; in fact, most are not. They espouse Liberal ideals to get elected, but rarely have the conviction to follow through, and by the time they are up for reelection, they have the not-inconsiderable power of the incumbent, which allows them to get the apathetic Democrat and unaligned voters, which is enough  to get them re-elected most of the time.

True Liberals don't go to Washington, because Washington isn't liberal. True Liberals rarely even go to their state capitals, because those aren't liberal either. The True Liberals fight the court battles, because that is where the fight gets settled. Not a whole lot can overturn a Supreme Court decision, but legislation can be revoked at anytime.

[Cain]

We're now doing True Scotsman arguments?

And besides, who do liberals in America keep voting for, again?

[Thurnez Isa]

We're now doing True Scotsman arguments?

And besides, who do liberals in America keep voting for, again?

Unfortunately they always seem to voting against something, or someone, from George Bush to Sarah Palin

[Nephew Twiddleton]

We're now doing True Scotsman arguments?

And besides, who do liberals in America keep voting for, again?

I vote for the Green party, when available, or occasionally the rare Socialist. I vote Democrat if it's a Dem/GOP choice. THough next time, I just might write in a candidate.

[Phox]

Depends on where and who and many other things. Independents, Democrats, Republicans, Green Party, Libertarians, Ralph Nader, not at all, and many others, I'm sure.

Sometimes you fall for the hype. Sometimes you pick and choose which issues are most important. Sometimes you pick the lesser of two evils. Sometimes your guy or gal, as the case may be, sells out. Sometimes your guy or gal can't/won't nut up and take a stand. Sometimes you think it's all a waste and don't do it. Voting isn't the real issue though.

[Cain]

Well I certainly see a lot of Green party and socialist politicians in Congress 

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Well I certainly see a lot of Green party and socialist politicians in Congress  

If more Americans were worried about voting for issues rather than voting against the enemy, you would.

Edit- You see more of them on a municipal or state level. The Dems and Republicans kinda have a monopoly on national level politics.

[Thurnez Isa]

Well I certainly see a lot of Green party and socialist politicians in Congress 

Thats cause their all Islamo-fascist commies


My opinion of the American system (and this is in no way a fully thought out hypothesis, so take as it is and Im perfectly willing to be shown Im full of crap here) is that the media and the political system has morphed to such a degree that most voters don't so much vote when they cast their ballet but when they pledge allegiance to a media outlet.
The rest of the population (the swing voters) are just going to vote to where the momentum is.

[LMNO]

His coming out as gay might hurt liberals who want to hold all ownership of the gay banner as if it were a political ideology and not what people do with their genitals, but not the gay movement.  The fact that gays can hold any political theory, religious principle, or ideological philosophy is a net benefit in making the rest of the population get over it, already.

Equal rights is a political ideology.  Liberals getting over fighting for the rights of gays to screw and marry who they please would not be a good thing.

Sure, but that wasn't what I said.  "the rest of the population" means all people who treat gays as somehow "other", for whatever reason or end, liberals and conservatives alike.

When homosexuality is so familiar that it is becomes a part of the two biggest political parties, then it will be increasingly more difficult to legislate against them, regardless of who is in office.

[Adios]

His coming out as gay might hurt liberals who want to hold all ownership of the gay banner as if it were a political ideology and not what people do with their genitals, but not the gay movement.  The fact that gays can hold any political theory, religious principle, or ideological philosophy is a net benefit in making the rest of the population get over it, already.

Equal rights is a political ideology.  Liberals getting over fighting for the rights of gays to screw and marry who they please would not be a good thing.

Sure, but that wasn't what I said.  "the rest of the population" means all people who treat gays as somehow "other", for whatever reason or end, liberals and conservatives alike.

When homosexuality is so familiar that it is becomes a part of the two biggest political parties, then it will be increasingly more difficult to legislate against them, regardless of who is in office.

openly becomes a part of the two biggest political parties,

I think it is already there, but kept in the closet.

[LMNO]

Oh, yeah.  Of course.  My comments started from the GWB aide who came out, and someone saying that it was "a bad thing for gays".

Fags are everywhere.  They believe in just as much absurd bullshit as anyone else.  They don't have any majick powers.



Other than to crown me King of the Bears, of course.

[Adios]

Your Highness!