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Don't get me wrong, I greatly appreciate the fact that you're at least putting effort into sincerely arguing your points. It's an argument I've enjoyed having. It's just that your points are wrong and your reasons for thinking they're right are stupid.

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Started by Roaring Biscuit!, August 07, 2010, 10:05:16 PM

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Adios

Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 10, 2010, 05:05:02 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 10, 2010, 04:52:24 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 10, 2010, 04:50:14 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on August 10, 2010, 04:33:56 AM
Try thinking for yourself, just once.

I dont see how that is even relevant, it seems as if you just wanted to shout that meme at someone.

And i dont like your condescending attitude, i have the habit of thinking for myself.

Not according to your posts. I don't care what you think.

NO CB, MY E-PENIS IS BIGGER THAN YOURS!  :fnord:

That's your response? Seriously?

The Johnny


Do i have to tell you? think for yourself, just once.
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

Adios

Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 10, 2010, 05:14:19 AM

Do i have to tell you? think for yourself, just once.

Jesus fucking christ. You are as weak a troll as I have ever sen.

The Johnny


Can a mod split this please?
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

The Johnny

I do not contest the previous points, but seeing as you mentioned Lesswrong wiki and im supposing the "Emotion" article...

Quote from: Lesswrong-emotionContrary to the popular idea, rationality  doesn't mean denying emotion. When emotion is appropriate to the reality of the situation, it should be embraced; only when emotion isn't appropriate should it be suppressed.

Im not sure if you would agree with the bolded part, but im against it;  suppressing an "innapropiate emotion" is avoiding important underlying issues that one is simply not ready to accept.

Weve all seen people that feel in a contradictory manner as they think they ought to, and thats mainly because of the difference of unconscious and conscious desires.

Rather i would say: When emotion isn't appropriate to the reality of the situation, it should be investigated.
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

Epimetheus

Quote from: Roaring Biscuit! on August 07, 2010, 10:05:16 PM
OP

Hm, quick behavioral change as the difference between humans and animals? I'm not so sure. I would phrase it differently though, as the greater capacity for behavioral variety. Certainly, humans have that more than other animals (as far as I know). But, I don't think there's a strong dividing line between humans and animals on anything; that is, a line on one side of which is having the quality and on the other is lacking it. Evolution has so made it that everything is a gradient.
Not sure if what I've said has had any positive value, but I wanted to say it anyway.

Also, here's a quote that seems relevant, and which I like.
Quote from: Miguel de UnamunoMan is said to be a reasoning animal. I do not know why he has not been defined as an affective or feeling animal. Perhaps that which differentiates him from other animals is feeling rather than reason. More often I have seen a cat reason than laugh or weep. Perhaps it weeps or laughs inwardly — but then perhaps, also inwardly, the crab resolves equations of the second degree.
POST-SINGULARITY POCKET ORGASM TOAD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS