Psychedelics question

[BadBeast]

Cheese and rice, if the government wanted volunteers for experimentation, they'd only have to read into this thread. Just think, a druggie's dream come true.

Okay then n00by Ruby, just what do you think Druggys dream about?  I'm sure you have some wacky and outlandish theory you can wow us all with. But it had better be bloody good, because so far, all you've done is dribble random words out of the hole you usually stuff pies into. So let's hear it, please.

[Pope Pixie Pickle]

Cheese and rice, if the government wanted volunteers for experimentation, they'd only have to read into this thread. Just think, a druggie's dream come true.

 

how about posting some ACTUAL FUCKING CONTENT AND NOT PASSING YOUR DRIVEL JUDGEMENT ALL OVER OUR NICE CLEAN BOARDS?

seriously, fuckoff back to TCC.

[Ruby]

Judgement No judgement here, I'm all for whatever works for the individual.  

That being said, is there a limit?

http://www.filmcritic.com/features/2009/08/drug-addicts-in-movies

However, more to the point:

http://sleep-disorders.suite101.com/article.cfm/how_drugs_and_herbs_affect_dreams

http://stason.org/TULARC/mind/dreaming/1-5-Do-substances-like-drugs-herbs-and-foods-affect-our-dr.html

Mind you, I'm not personally anyone's enemy, but rather individual ignorance is, and to self-destruct is ignorant.

Would I use drugs? Hells bells, of course, but, within my own reasoning.

My conclusion:

http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2002/09/12/grob_interview

http://www.tclondon.org.uk/pages/home/drug-types/ecstacy.php

http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/pressroom/pressrelease/pr_november07_01.cfm

  INDEED

[Ruby]

On a more 'positively effective' note, this is one of my most favorite topics of all:

http://www.cesar.umd.edu/cesar/drugs/ecstasy.asp

http://www.no-problem-marriage-counseling.com/couple-massage.html

Again, I am all for whatever may work for individual, um, needs.  

http://www.cesar.umd.edu/cesar/drugs/marijuana.asp

http://coedmagazine.com/2009/09/24/10-major-health-benefits-of-marijuana

http://www.connexions.org/CxLibrary/Docs/CX5039-MarijuanaEcologicalBenefits.htm

It's a conspiracy, man! (To keep it illegal, that is.)

[BadBeast]

Judgement No judgement here, I'm all for whatever works for the individual.  

That being said, is there a limit?

http://www.filmcritic.com/features/2009/08/drug-addicts-in-movies

However, more to the point:

http://sleep-disorders.suite101.com/article.cfm/how_drugs_and_herbs_affect_dreams

http://stason.org/TULARC/mind/dreaming/1-5-Do-substances-like-drugs-herbs-and-foods-affect-our-dr.html

Mind you, I'm not personally anyone's enemy, but rather individual ignorance is, and to self-destruct is ignorant.

Would I use drugs? Hells bells, of course, but, within my own reasoning.

My conclusion:

http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2002/09/12/grob_interview

http://www.tclondon.org.uk/pages/home/drug-types/ecstacy.php

http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/pressroom/pressrelease/pr_november07_01.cfm

 INDEED

On a more 'positively effective' note, this is one of my most favorite topics of all:

http://www.cesar.umd.edu/cesar/drugs/ecstasy.asp

http://www.no-problem-marriage-counseling.com/couple-massage.html

Again, I am all for whatever may work for individual, um, needs.  

http://www.cesar.umd.edu/cesar/drugs/marijuana.asp

http://coedmagazine.com/2009/09/24/10-major-health-benefits-of-marijuana

http://www.connexions.org/CxLibrary/Docs/CX5039-MarijuanaEcologicalBenefits.htm

It's a conspiracy, man! (To keep it illegal, that is.)

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Only joking, you obviously took some time and trouble putting this together, so the least I could do was check it out  (for bullshit, and inconsistancies) but all the info seems to be pretty accurate. But the best bit, (for me) was learning a new term of drug classification. "Empathogenic Entactogens"  I love this term, and shall use it to impress the fuck out of chicks in Nightclubs, who may be rolling a little, in the hope of getting them back to my psychedelic Luurve Palace for some seedy, meaningless sex. Thanks.   

[BabylonHoruv]

No, it's not.  But it was only really brought up because the OP was saying all that "Oh, I won't get addicted" stuff, that is usually a pre-amble to addiction. So the point was worth labouring on, and I hope he's taken it on board.
I'd just as soon get back to Psychedelics. Heroin is boring.

I just thoguht it would make a nice thread on it's own, without having the stuff about psychedelics to interrupt it.

[BadBeast]

So start a Heroin thread, or better still, (cuz smack really is boring) a Class A thread, maybe theme it towards the more dangerous, or less well known drugs, in an attempt to get some info on them all in one place. For instance, Information on Drugs like the Cranobolic Bi-sturbiles, such as Co-Crackamethyl-triptylot (About which little is really known) could be collated, posted, and referenced for anyone to find.   
 

[Apikoros II]

I think I referenced it in an earlier post in this thread, so without being a sodomistic necrophiliac (ie beating a dead horse) check out www.erowind.org for all your true drug information and stories...

[Chairman Risus]

I think I referenced it in an earlier post in this thread, so without being a sodomistic necrophiliac (ie beating a dead horse) check out www.erowind.org for all your true drug information and stories...

www.erowid.org

User submitted doesn't necessarily mean it's reliable.

I'm also not sure what the sodomy or the philia have anything to do with beating the dead horse.

[Lies]

Hey, we talked about all the horribleness of drugs, I think it's only fair to say, my truth, that I had a great time on drugs, sorry if this spoils anything.

The OP was asking about a possible genetic flaw in his family, Lys, and this can be a very serious subject for someone that doesnt want to end up nuts.

Read the topic properly before being an irresponsible fuck.

This isnt a general debate about drugs. This is a serious personal question, you douchebag.

Sure, that's fair enough. If I had gotten in earlier, I would have elaborated more, but as I said, I feel everything that needs to be said, had already been said.
I'm not saying he *should* do them, I'm not condoning anything, I'm just *saying*, drug's can fuck you up, but I've taken enough for 100 hippies and I'm fine.

If your family has a history of mental illness, it's not the most advisable thing to take things like LSD or Mushrooms.

But I know someone who  had a history of scitzophrenia who took DMT once and his scitzophrenia disappeared into thin air.

At the end of the day, drugs are drugs and if you don't have a strong mental constitution, they could fuck you up, drugs do different things to different people and really, it's hard to say what will happen to anyone who's never taken a particular drug before until they have it.

Happy now?

[Lies]

Indeed.  It's one thing when we are talking philosophically and politically about drugs and drug policy.  But in this instance, we're dealing with a real person, with a family history of mental illness, contemplating doing drugs that have shown to have some links to mental illnesses such as schizophrenia.  So congrats to you Lys, that you've survived mostly intact, so far, from your drug use.  But please think about the example you could possibly be setting for others before you open your big mouth. 

I'm saying, I agree with everything that's been said so far. I'm not saying he should do it or to follow in my example.
This thread has been a great source of info in my opinion, I just wish I could have gotten in earlier to say it myself, and I'm just putting my feelings out there.

[East Coast Hustle]

I actually didn't think Lys' post was douchy at all. If there's going to be a fair discussion/debate about a subject it's important that all sides be heard. And I agree with him that just because some drugs are bad news for many people, that doesn't equate to a blanket condemnation, it just means that individuals need to be informed and careful about the choices they make in that regard. Hell, I don't even do drugs (anymore) and I think that's mostly a better choice for me but there are people I know for whom drugs have been helpful in their personal development (again, in a limited individual context) and there are even a few people I know who would be utterly intolerable without drugs.

That said, if I had a family history of a schizophrenia and had read reliable studies that showed a potential link between hallucinogenic drugs and active schizophrenia in people who had a latent genetic disposition towards that condition, I'd probably be careful to the point of abstaining.

[AFK]

On the question of Psychedlics/Schizophrenia, Psychiatrists are unable to distinguish between a  Schizophrenic episode, and a mushroom or acid trip. Just saying.

[AFK]

I think I referenced it in an earlier post in this thread, so without being a sodomistic necrophiliac (ie beating a dead horse) check out www.erowind.org for all your true drug information and stories...

"true" drug information

It doesn't take very long to get the slant of that website.  Particularily when there is an entire section on how to avoid getting arrested, get the best of cops, etc., etc.,

Biased site is biased. 

[East Coast Hustle]

Indeed. Anecdotal/experiential evidence is useful in context, but if that's ALL there is it paints a very incomplete picture.