The "WTC Mosque" hysteria, in a nutshell

[Doktor Howl]

New Yorker here

Most new yorkers I speak to are baffled that the rest of the country suddenly cares about how NYC downtown is zoned.

Is the red ink on your NEVER FORGET bumper sticker going to fade any faster if there's a mosque two blocks from ground zero?

Are you suddenly going to become less patriotic because muslims follow the same rules for building a place of worship as the rest of us?


It really makes me want to protest some churches being built. How insensitive to build a church! because some christians did some bad things once! I HAVE A RIGHT TO NOT BE OFFENDED AND THAT TRUMPS YOUR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM, HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT?

^^ This ^^ Reflects my thoughts. I remember quite well back when TWC incident happened how many 'religious' people swore that, well, NYC deserved such a thing and that 'they' had it coming.

...Because Gays & feminists were allowed to exist.

I bet you were one of the people thinking or saying that.

No, jackass, I was one of the ones that cried for days because of the devastation.

Yeah, I bet. 

I think it's more likely, given your disdain for Gays, feminists, and just about everyone else that doesn't live according to your standards, that you were secretly thrilled, and feeling nice and vindicated.

[Ruby]

It's all bullshit for fundies to scream about while getting free press. Shame on the media.

I'm not sure if most media is capable of shame.

[Adios]

It's all bullshit for fundies to scream about while getting free press. Shame on the media.

I'm not sure if most media is capable of shame.

I wasn't talking to you, so STFU.

[Ruby]

Or you could always just confine all your disdainful hate to ATTN: RUBY instead of corrupting every thread posted.

[Adios]

Dok, to keep this thread from the infestation can this crap be moved to the other thread?

[Doktor Howl]

Or you could always just confine all your disdainful hate to ATTN: RUBY instead of corrupting every thread posted.

Or not.

[Doktor Howl]

Dok, to keep this thread from the infestation can this crap be moved to the other thread?

She's sort of on topic.  If the thread author wants it moved, I'll do it.  Otherwise, it stays.

Dok,
Benevolent Tyrant of this "Ruled-Roost Board".

[Adios]

Tyrannical Bastard.

[Doktor Howl]

Tyrannical Bastard.

DEAL WITH IT, CITIZEN!

[Adios]

Tyrannical Bastard.

DEAL WITH IT, CITIZEN!

You brought this on yourself. You forced me to get help.

http://www.princepoppycock.com/fr_poppycock.cfm

[Doktor Howl]

Tyrannical Bastard.

DEAL WITH IT, CITIZEN!

You brought this on yourself. You forced me to get help.

http://www.princepoppycock.com/fr_poppycock.cfm

HAH!  WEBSENSE SAVES TEH DAY!

[Adios]

Dammit.

[Doktor Howl]

Dammit.

If we tyrants were so easily defeated, we wouldn't be tyrants in the first place.

If George goes out to slay the dragon, he'd best be prepared for the dragon to have other ideas.   

[Adios]

You will look when you get home, and then you will hate me forever.

[Cain]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-08-17/ground-zero-mosque-controversy-america-has-disgraced-itself/

Remember when George W. Bush and his neoconservative allies used to say that the "war on terror" was a struggle on behalf of Muslims, decent folks who wanted nothing more than to live free like you and me? Remember when Karen Hughes paid millions to produce glitzy videos of Muslim Americans testifying about how free they were to practice their religion in the USA? Remember Bush's second inaugural, when he said "America's ideal of freedom" is "sustained in our national life by the truths of Sinai, the Sermon on the Mount, the words of the Koran?"

Once upon a time, Republicans were so confident that the vast majority of Muslims preferred freedom to jihad that they believed the U.S. could install democracy in Iraq within months. Now, confronted with a group of Muslim Americans who want to build a cultural center that includes Jews and Christians on the board (how many churches and synagogues do that?), GOP leaders call them terrorists because they don't share Benjamin Netanyahu's view of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Once upon a time, the "war on terror" was supposed to bring American values to Saudi Arabia. Now Newt Gingrich says we shouldn't build a mosque in Lower Manhattan until the Saudis build churches and synagogues in Mecca—which is to say, we're bringing Saudi values to the United States. I wonder how David Petraeus feels about all this. There he is, slogging away in the Hindu Kush, desperately trying to be culturally sensitive, watching GIs get killed because Afghans believe the U.S. is waging a war on Islam, and back home, the super-patriots on Fox News have... declared war on Islam.

So please, no more talk about those idealistic neoconservatives who are willing to expend blood and treasure so Afghans and Iraqis can live free. People in Basra and Kandahar had better hope that America's counterinsurgency warriors create a society in which they can practice their religion free of intimidation and insult. Because it's now clear they can't do so on the lower tip of the island of Manhattan.