Facebook can cost you your job

[Adios]

Shooting a 3 ball 2 rail combo is not dirty pool, it is skill.

[Epimetheus]

Private page is private.

Public page is PUBLIC.

this. /thread.

[Triple Zero]

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2010/08/26/prism.social.media.work.cnn?hpt=C2

Germany so far is the only country taking steps to preventing potential employers from using social media to determine hiring practices.

I disagree with Germany.  If you're dumb enough to smear yourself IN PUBLIC, then an employer has the right to react to that.

Good point. Although I think they could do something about it, but then rather in the form of a public awareness campaign regarding the importance of properly managing your privacy, or something. Nothing wrong with educating the dumb, after all.

[Triple Zero]

Also, I'm on one social network (afaik), a Dutch one, and I prefer it not having pics of me puking or whatever. The photos that show me partying, just show a normal young Dutch guy having fun. Regardless of whether it's my friends or my boss who get to see it.

[Adios]

Also, I'm on one social network (afaik), a Dutch one, and I prefer it not having pics of me puking or whatever. The photos that show me partying, just show a normal young Dutch guy having fun. Regardless of whether it's my friends or my boss who get to see it.

But what about opinions, thoughts, and ideas? Are you as careful about posting them as well?

Seems to me, as an opinion, that it would suck to be afraid to say whatever you wanted to.

[Disco Pickle]

Shooting a 3 ball 2 rail combo is not dirty pool, it is skill.

very effective method of ending our conversation.

well played sir, well played.

[Epimetheus]

Also, I'm on one social network (afaik), a Dutch one, and I prefer it not having pics of me puking or whatever. The photos that show me partying, just show a normal young Dutch guy having fun. Regardless of whether it's my friends or my boss who get to see it.

But what about opinions, thoughts, and ideas? Are you as careful about posting them as well?

Seems to me, as an opinion, that it would suck to be afraid to say whatever you wanted to.

Yeah, an employer shouldn't choose not to hire you based on your opinions and ideas on a social networking site, as far as they don't affect your work. But something made public on there that could affect your desirability as a worker or representative of the company - I don't see why that's going too far.

[Adios]

Shooting a 3 ball 2 rail combo is not dirty pool, it is skill.

very effective method of ending our conversation.

well played sir, well played.

Didn't intend to end the conversation. I am by nature a smart ass. 

[Doktor Howl]

Nothing wrong with educating the dumb, after all.

[Disco Pickle]

Shooting a 3 ball 2 rail combo is not dirty pool, it is skill.

very effective method of ending our conversation.

well played sir, well played.

Didn't intend to end the conversation. I am by nature a smart ass. 

a quality in a person that I hold in high regard.  maybe the highest.

[BabylonHoruv]

I guess I am on the other side of this. I like to post political issues on facebook. If an employer has a differing viewpoint them I am either disqualified or fired.

Freedom of speech squished.

Firing someone for a difference in political views is illegal in the US, no matter how you found that information.  (falls under the creed part of non-discrimination)

[BabylonHoruv]

This is all good stuff, I think it boils down to (at least here in the states): You are free to Speak as you will, but you are responsible for the results of that speech. If posting pics of you being trashed or hitting a bong is 'speech' and you make it public... then an employer can hold you responsible for that 'speech'.

Now, in my opinion, this is just the natural extension of workplace intrusion into private lives that begins with the pee test and ends... well who knows where but at this point some employers are embedding RFID tags in their employees.

Until everyone says "Uhh... No." this will continue.

I was told before I hired on that piss tests were mandatory.  This is a chemical refinery inside city limits, after all.

I agreed to that at the time of my hiring, so it is not an intrusion into my life.

It's an intrusion that you accepted... but its still an intrusion. I'm not saying that you can't agree to be intruded upon. There is a company in central Ohio that doesn't let any of their employees use tobacco. Everyone agrees to it. However, its still an intrusion into their off work time... and they just make baskets.

I mean, how long, do you think, before "WE CAN FIRE YOU FOR YOUR INTERNETZ" is included in every hiring agreement? Which we'll of course all agree to... or be homeless.

Longaburger has let employees smoke ever since the HR manager that made that rule was caught smoking, that was like 15 years ago.

[Adios]

I guess I am on the other side of this. I like to post political issues on facebook. If an employer has a differing viewpoint them I am either disqualified or fired.

Freedom of speech squished.

Firing someone for a difference in political views is illegal in the US, no matter how you found that information.  (falls under the creed part of non-discrimination)

I was recently fired for not being a Christian. Can I prove it? No.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

This is all good stuff, I think it boils down to (at least here in the states): You are free to Speak as you will, but you are responsible for the results of that speech. If posting pics of you being trashed or hitting a bong is 'speech' and you make it public... then an employer can hold you responsible for that 'speech'.

Now, in my opinion, this is just the natural extension of workplace intrusion into private lives that begins with the pee test and ends... well who knows where but at this point some employers are embedding RFID tags in their employees.

Until everyone says "Uhh... No." this will continue.

I was told before I hired on that piss tests were mandatory.  This is a chemical refinery inside city limits, after all.

I agreed to that at the time of my hiring, so it is not an intrusion into my life.

It's an intrusion that you accepted... but its still an intrusion. I'm not saying that you can't agree to be intruded upon. There is a company in central Ohio that doesn't let any of their employees use tobacco. Everyone agrees to it. However, its still an intrusion into their off work time... and they just make baskets.

I mean, how long, do you think, before "WE CAN FIRE YOU FOR YOUR INTERNETZ" is included in every hiring agreement? Which we'll of course all agree to... or be homeless.

Longaburger has let employees smoke ever since the HR manager that made that rule was caught smoking, that was like 15 years ago.

Really? Damn, its been that long....

[Doktor Howl]

I guess I am on the other side of this. I like to post political issues on facebook. If an employer has a differing viewpoint them I am either disqualified or fired.

Freedom of speech squished.

Firing someone for a difference in political views is illegal in the US, no matter how you found that information.  (falls under the creed part of non-discrimination)

I was recently fired for not being a Christian. Can I prove it? No.

I've been "laid off" for being left of Atilla the Hun by a right wing nutjob boss.  That boss, incidentally, was fired for some contrived excuse when it came out that he was gay.