there is no "correct" motorcycle

[Jasper]

SHOULD your motorcycle wobble, replace or fix it. 

NEVER let your motorcycle sit in the garage too long. 

WEAR proper safety gear when operating your motorcycle. 

BE sure to signal when changing lanes.  IF weather is inclement, ride with caution. 

ONLY use your motorcycle for roads it was designed for.

SAME goes for reality models, obviously.

[the last yatto]

Thanks cram, I didn't finish the book,
After reading the intro, kinda gave away the ending
Totally ruined my mood, so far let three other people read it

[Cramulus]

I really like that book. I'm sorry the ending got blown for you - it was stupid of pirsig to give away the twist in the forward.

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=16020.msg511096#msg511096

[Epimetheus]

Oh. 

This was my 1111th post! 

[the last yatto]

Gave away the entire books theme, and while it didn't say it. It read like he was trying to replace the meme "your body is a temple" with "your body is a motorcycle"

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Re: there is no "correct" motorcycle

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[Cain]

the book's not really about zen either

Isn't there a lot more Greek philosophy than Zen in the book?

I've put a copy on my Kindle but I've been distracted by other reading.

[Elder Iptuous]

TGRR, is that a particular motorcycle in your emote of the correct motorcycle?  is it an enduro type bike?

also, is ZatAoMM a fairly quick read?  i believe i recall seeing it in the store, and it being a slender book of modest size...  if so, i'd like to wedge it into my reading stack...

[rong]

this is one of my motorcycles next to some rocks i found in the woods.

[Lies]

Thanks cram, I didn't finish the book,
After reading the intro, kinda gave away the ending
Totally ruined my mood, so far let three other people read it

I had the exact same thing. I was reading the forward... and there isn't even a fucking SPOILER ALERT, ITS JUST, HEY GUYS JUST SO YOU KNOW THERES THIS TWIST IN THE STORY SO JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T MISS IT HERE IT IS NOW FOR YOU.

Fuck that.

[Cramulus]

the book's not really about zen either

Isn't there a lot more Greek philosophy than Zen in the book?

yeah, mostly greek philosophy. He's really focused on this divide between the classical and romantic worlds. That split manifests as a tension between arts and sciences. Pirsig thinks that this is originally Aristotle's fault and talks about the ways that we've reified this bad Ancient Greek idea over the centuries. He also talks about how more modern philosophers (Hume, off the top of my head) deal with these problems.

also, is ZatAoMM a fairly quick read?  i believe i recall seeing it in the store, and it being a slender book of modest size...  if so, i'd like to wedge it into my reading stack...

It's pretty dense, but he writes in a conversational tone. I had to read a bunch of stuff twice because he's talking about philosophy, and I find that more comprehensible if I read it slowly.




As for the book's spoiler:

I find the book's plot is kind of secondary to the ideas he's discussing. It bites to have the twist spoiled, but I think it's still a good read even if you know what's up. (providing that talking about Quality doesn't bore the pants off of you)

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

The correct motorcycle depends entirely on where you're going and how you want to get there.