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Started by BadBeast, September 15, 2010, 06:18:09 PM

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Anarchy is the ultimate pink unicorn bullshit. Argue it all day and come full circle. Rule by the strongest or best armed or best manned is so fucking silly it may as well be about riding fucking unicorns.

People will always be people and Anarchy seems to overlook this fact as a part of fantasy.

BabylonHoruv

Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 24, 2010, 10:10:19 PM
Quote from: Xochiquetzal on September 24, 2010, 06:10:15 PM
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 24, 2010, 04:46:05 AM
In my experience, that's 99% of them.

Chances are you don't know the rest are Anarchists because they've kept their mouths shut about it.

so what's your excuse?

Well ECH, if I don't open my mouth you can't put your enormous prick in it.
You're a special case, Babylon.  You are offensive even when you don't post.

Merely by being alive, you make everyone just a little more miserable

-Dok Howl

BabylonHoruv

Quote from: Charley Brown on September 25, 2010, 05:25:51 AM
Democracy is the ultimate pink unicorn bullshit. Argue it all day and come full circle. Rule by the strongest or best armed or best manned or best speakers, or richest, is so fucking silly it may as well be about riding fucking unicorns.

People will always be people and Democracy seems to overlook this fact as a part of fantasy.

Edited for my personal amusement. 
You're a special case, Babylon.  You are offensive even when you don't post.

Merely by being alive, you make everyone just a little more miserable

-Dok Howl

the last yatto

Let's goto candy mountain Charlie
Look, asshole:  Your 'incomprehensible' act, your word-salad, your pinealism...It BORES ME.  I've been incomprehensible for so long, I TEACH IT TO MBA CANDIDATES.  So if you simply MUST talk about your pineal gland or happy children dancing in the wildflowers, go talk to Roger, because he digs that kind of shit

Bruno

Quote from: Charley Brown on September 25, 2010, 05:25:51 AM
Anarchy is the ultimate pink unicorn bullshit. Argue it all day and come full circle. Rule by the strongest or best armed or best manned is so fucking silly it may as well be about riding fucking unicorns.

People will always be people and Anarchy seems to overlook this fact as a part of fantasy.

You do not ride a fucking unicorn, man!

Unicorns live free or die!  :argh!:
Formerly something else...

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Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on September 25, 2010, 12:10:33 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on September 25, 2010, 05:25:51 AM
Anarchy is the ultimate pink unicorn bullshit. Argue it all day and come full circle. Rule by the strongest or best armed or best manned is so fucking silly it may as well be about riding fucking unicorns.

People will always be people and Anarchy seems to overlook this fact as a part of fantasy.

You do not ride a fucking unicorn, man!

Unicorns live free or die!  :argh!:


I reject your notion, and I wear spurs when I ride.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Xochiquetzal on September 25, 2010, 08:32:41 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on September 25, 2010, 05:25:51 AM
Democracy is the ultimate pink unicorn bullshit. Argue it all day and come full circle. Rule by the strongest or best armed or best manned or best speakers, or richest, is so fucking silly it may as well be about riding fucking unicorns.

People will always be people and Democracy seems to overlook this fact as a part of fantasy.

Edited for my personal amusement. 

You're correct, too.

But we don't live in a democracy.  We live in a constitutional republic...Which, unlike the pipe dreams of communists, anarchists, and libertarians, actually works.
Molon Lube

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Quote from: Pēleus on September 25, 2010, 09:54:34 AM
Let's goto candy mountain Charlie

Caaannnnddddyyyyy Mountain!

The Great Pope of OUTSIDE

As far as anarchy goes, I wouldn't trust a society full of anarchists not to stab me in my sleep if I looked at them wrong.

Yeah you can say anything you like about people having control over their own life, and not letting the power of others faze them or what have you, but when it comes right down to it, you CANNOT TRUST people to have the same morals as you. And if nothing was stopping them, I sure as hell wouldn't feel safe around a lot of the people I know now.

So, that being said, I _will_ follow the law and I _will_ do what the laws say, because in the end, it is those same laws which are stopping the MAJORITY of people from hurting me.
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BadBeast

Quote from: The Great Pope of OUTSIDE on September 25, 2010, 09:19:01 PM
As far as anarchy goes, I wouldn't trust a society full of anarchists not to stab me in my sleep if I looked at them wrong.
And you sleep better living in a society full of armed, self obsessed greed junkies? What makes you think Anarchists are more violent than, for instance, Baptists? Or Nudists?
Quote from: The Great Pope of OUTSIDE on September 25, 2010, 09:19:01 PM

Yeah you can say anything you like about people having control over their own life, and not letting the power of others faze them or what have you, but when it comes right down to it, you CANNOT TRUST people to have the same morals as you. And if nothing was stopping them, I sure as hell wouldn't feel safe around a lot of the people I know now.
Whatever Society you live in, you cannot trust people to have the same morals as you! And what the Hell  makes you think they should have? Are your morals the best ones? Do you really think a State Sanctioned code of Morality makes people behave well?  Look around you, it does no such thing. You are falling for the same tired old line of bullshit designed specifically to re-inforce a disproportionate sense of what Government can do.

Quote from: The Great Pope of OUTSIDE on September 25, 2010, 09:19:01 PM

So, that being said, I _will_ follow the law and I _will_ do what the laws say, because in the end, it is those same laws which are stopping the MAJORITY of people from hurting me.
This only proves my point! You are afraid that the majority of people want to hurt you! Why? Are you some kind of monster? Have you done terrible, awful things, that most people want vengeance on you? This fear has been carefully planted, nurtured, and fed by those who want to rule you. It's like they've broken your legs, and you saying "Thank you" when they offer you crutches!
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BabylonHoruv

Also, in a Democracy, if the majority of people want to hurt you, you'll get hurt.

Maybe not in a constitutional republic, then it's more about what the people in charge want.
You're a special case, Babylon.  You are offensive even when you don't post.

Merely by being alive, you make everyone just a little more miserable

-Dok Howl

Don Coyote

Denying that masses of people would do horrible things to singular people that the individuals in the mass would not do on their own is retarded.

Salty

#297
An anarchist society and a democratic society share one major commonality: they both contain people. And people are horrible, especially in groups.

Reading The Dark Side of Democracy, it is easy to see how the maintanence of that particular order leads to terrible things like ethnic cleansing of all shapes and sizes.

However, letting go of it in favor of anarchy isn't going to remove the problem because with anarchy you're still dealing with the same exact problem: humans. Except with anarchy there's no system in place to seperate the truly awful people.

What about serial killers? Right now, in our fucked up system, it's pretty challening to cut people up and shove the pieces of their bodies into your fridge because things are kept orderly. People are accounted for. In an anarchist system (lol), wouldn't people like that be more free to engage in such behavior?

Whether they call themselves Anarchists or WHATEVER, I fear them because the have those nasty human habits like murder and rape and genocide and egotistical violence.

And while they're not always the best option, those armed and greedy folks do often keep me from being raped/murdered etc for the majority of the time. Sure, THEY may end up doing the raping/murdering. But from what I can tell, that thin veneer we call civilization does lessen such things.


Oh, nevermind. Cudgel put it better and more succinctly than I was able to do.
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

Don Coyote

I don't think the reality of how shity people can be is going to sink in.

BabylonHoruv

Quote from: Cudgel on September 26, 2010, 09:00:58 PM
Denying that masses of people would do horrible things to singular people that the individuals in the mass would not do on their own is retarded.

I don't think anyone denied it.  It's just that, for some reason, statists tend to exclude the state from their consideration as a mass of people more likely to do horrible things than people are likely to do as individuals.
You're a special case, Babylon.  You are offensive even when you don't post.

Merely by being alive, you make everyone just a little more miserable

-Dok Howl