Okay, So You Found Us, and We're Not What You Expected.

[The Wizard Joseph]

My money is on "he's trying to be funny/clever" or he's schizophrenic.

Yeah guess that could've come off as kind of asinine, but I was in a mood.  Do not be alarmed.  There may be other times that I don't hit the mark as well.

You're not alarming, you're kind of tedious.

Well, I'm not schizophrenic either.  I came here to share art and play at the games you all set up for yourselves.  I hope to keep doing that until I run out of time or interest. I'm pretty serious about a lot of things in life, but want to have fun here. I've been enjoying MUCH more reading than posting and think some of you are very talented and others are jerks.  Some of you are truly gifted jerks and it scares me a little.  If you tolerate my posts and non-witty moments maybe I'll happen to provoke and entertain you some day.

Dadaism isn't entertaining.  Neither is word salad...Especially since we've seen it about once a month for 9 years.  Be yourself...You don't have to wow us on your first day.

Fair Enough good Doktor.  I'm still a little new to forums generally.  I'll slowly post more audio links in the audioautoerotica thread I set up.  Those probably reflect my thoughts and desire to entertain better anyway.  In the mean time I'll try to tuck it back in my posts a bit, but I set up a thread in OR KILL ME expressly to characterize from parts of a story I've been putting together.

Are there any Nessies in it?

I think I read elsewhere on the forum that some folks hunt these down in power armor, but I don't know what they are other than perhaps hungry.  Got any photos?

No.  If you'd read the thread, you'd know why.

I had skimmed it.  I'll find it again.  There's a lot of stuff here and I'm doing other stuff so I'm gonna be a little slow on the in-jokes.  If some of the good material wasn't so good here I'd have left this forum alone a while ago due to the extraordinary volume of the in-knowledge needed to get the jokes in them, or even to answer basic questions.

I can attest that it's worth it.

And painful.

I can deal pretty well with the "hurt" of it.  Thanks though!  It's been challenging here.  I get over-enthusiastic perhaps, but it's genuine.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I know it's not "nice" to hate people with mental illnesses. And honestly, I don't hate them if it's treated and under control. But not too long ago, I realized that separating the person from the behavior is a false dichotomy, and that my intense sense of repulsion toward out-of-control schizophrenics and other dangerously crazy people is self-protection, and I am not going to downplay or conceal it.

Thanks for clarifying, that makes a lot more sense.

I do have to say, in light of your earlier comment, that schizophrenia is not a predictor of one's propensity towards violence. The most recent data on that says there is no difference between the levels of violence amongst schizophrenics and the general population. If you're concerned about violence then things like being young, male and a drug user are much more reliable qualities to consider.

I've thought a lot about the whole separating the person and behavior as well, but I came to the opposite conclusion: it's a key distinction to make, when it's practically possible to do so. Otherwise, I think we fall victim to our pre-wired illusions via the "fundamental attribution error". Given the stresses you're under right now, it makes sense to forgo the extra energy it takes to counteract this tendency so you can focus on more important things in your life.

But when we're not under heavy stress I find that distinction to be invaluable and try to make it as much of a habit as possible.

I am not counting physical violence as the only form of danger people pose. Schizophrenics can (and usually do) take a heavy emotional and psychological toll on the people in their lives.

Regardless of my stress level, I don't think it would be healthy or helpful for me to have people with poorly controlled mental or personality disorders in my life, and so unless I have a compelling reason to do so (like, one of my kids has such problems) I have no interest in doing so.

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Yeah, I don't do crazy people.  I don't have the time, patience or emotional capacity to be nice or understanding so I don't deal with them. 

I'm always afraid I would just slap the shit out of someone.

[Adios]

Yeah, I don't do crazy people.  I don't have the time, patience or emotional capacity to be nice or understanding so I don't deal with them. 

I'm always afraid I would just slap the shit out of someone.

I thought we were friends. 

[Dysfunctional Cunt]

Yeah, I don't do crazy people.  I don't have the time, patience or emotional capacity to be nice or understanding so I don't deal with them. 

I'm always afraid I would just slap the shit out of someone.

I thought we were friends. 

Yo ain't that kind of crazy baby!   

[Payne]

I know it's not "nice" to hate people with mental illnesses. And honestly, I don't hate them if it's treated and under control. But not too long ago, I realized that separating the person from the behavior is a false dichotomy, and that my intense sense of repulsion toward out-of-control schizophrenics and other dangerously crazy people is self-protection, and I am not going to downplay or conceal it.

Thanks for clarifying, that makes a lot more sense.

I do have to say, in light of your earlier comment, that schizophrenia is not a predictor of one's propensity towards violence. The most recent data on that says there is no difference between the levels of violence amongst schizophrenics and the general population. If you're concerned about violence then things like being young, male and a drug user are much more reliable qualities to consider.

I've thought a lot about the whole separating the person and behavior as well, but I came to the opposite conclusion: it's a key distinction to make, when it's practically possible to do so. Otherwise, I think we fall victim to our pre-wired illusions via the "fundamental attribution error". Given the stresses you're under right now, it makes sense to forgo the extra energy it takes to counteract this tendency so you can focus on more important things in your life.

But when we're not under heavy stress I find that distinction to be invaluable and try to make it as much of a habit as possible.

I am not counting physical violence as the only form of danger people pose. Schizophrenics can (and usually do) take a heavy emotional and psychological toll on the people in their lives.

Regardless of my stress level, I don't think it would be healthy or helpful for me to have people with poorly controlled mental or personality disorders in my life, and so unless I have a compelling reason to do so (like, one of my kids has such problems) I have no interest in doing so.

Just finished listening to a series of lectures on the biology of behaviour. The above is probably the sanest way to view things (though I am guessing that biologists, and many other people, try to seperate the diesease from the person in a much clearer and defined way).

The biggest affector of violence is environment, and while males in their 20's are more likely to be violent, someone from Detroit as opposed to someone from Toronto is signifigantly more likely to be violent. (actually, environment is a crazily super effective way to completely change someones behaviour even down to the genetic level).

The famous experiments and analysis done on twins seperated at birth, looking at Schizophrenia, is an excellent example of the environment that nurtures Schizophrenia and that is caused by it.