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Started by Disco Pickle, October 15, 2010, 02:11:43 PM

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Dysfunctional Cunt

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 07:33:49 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 15, 2010, 07:32:27 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 07:30:37 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 15, 2010, 07:29:45 PM
They may get them back, but whether the information is accurate is another matter.

I know I lie like a bastard on those things every decade.

Hell yes, I am now listed as a full blooded Cherokee and Terri is listed as full blooded Blackfeet.

I'm Black and I'm proud.

Ten years ago, I was Hispanic.

Next, I'm thinking Inuit.

EXACTLY!!!  I lie every time.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 07:34:52 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 07:34:28 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 15, 2010, 07:28:09 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 15, 2010, 06:18:25 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:36:22 PM
perhaps the talk about division is because it's real, as the maps seem to indicate.

but we choose to divide ourselves. 

The fact that most people never live more than 10 miles from where they were born could be playing a large factor in keeping the racial divisions in neighborhoods.  Where you were born becomes your home and a place that you identify as such.

I'd be interested to know where this data correlates to income and property values.

Fact: Everyone in Tucson is from somewhere else, and no one outside of Tucson is from here.

I'm about half a country away from my home.

Same here. It was a bullshit statement.

the fact that it's LESS true today than it was 100 years ago doesn't make it a bullshit statement.



So pony up a link.
Molon Lube

Adios

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 07:34:28 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 15, 2010, 07:28:09 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 15, 2010, 06:18:25 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:36:22 PM
perhaps the talk about division is because it's real, as the maps seem to indicate.

but we choose to divide ourselves. 

The fact that most people never live more than 10 miles from where they were born could be playing a large factor in keeping the racial divisions in neighborhoods.  Where you were born becomes your home and a place that you identify as such.

I'd be interested to know where this data correlates to income and property values.

Fact: Everyone in Tucson is from somewhere else, and no one outside of Tucson is from here.

I'm about half a country away from my home.

Same here. It was a bullshit statement.

the fact that it's LESS true today than it was 100 years ago doesn't make it a bullshit statement.



Unless you can back it up, I call bullshit.

Dysfunctional Cunt

Quote from: ☂ Kim Jong Fred ☂ on October 15, 2010, 04:49:51 PM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 15, 2010, 04:19:33 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 15, 2010, 03:40:53 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 02:25:17 PM

not that I'm doubting you, assuming you live there and are familiar with the city but.

Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 15, 2010, 02:17:23 PM

Interesting but I call bullshit on the St. Louis one.  The colors are backwards.  
QuoteWhite is NOT the majority in St. Louis
:cn:. Miami however was on target.



REALLY DUDE?

I live in St. Louis now, and lived in Florida for the 20+ years prior to moving here.

Citation my ass!

what would be the gain in altering the statistics for one city?

I am one of two white families in a 5 block radius, My children were 2 of 6 white kids in the whole fucking school.  All I was saying is it was wrong for St. Louis.   I know that for a fact.  With that knowledge, we can deduce that the other cities (not all) are off as well.

maybe you just live in a mostly black neighbourhood/ school district

No, the entire city of St. Louis has a majority of black people.  There are small 2-3 block neighborhoods of whites and one hispanic section but otherwise, whites are the minority everywhere in this city.  I wasn't just refering to one public school, it has been every school my children have attended in this city.

Adios

Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 07:34:28 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 15, 2010, 07:28:09 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 15, 2010, 06:18:25 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:36:22 PM
perhaps the talk about division is because it's real, as the maps seem to indicate.

but we choose to divide ourselves. 

The fact that most people never live more than 10 miles from where they were born could be playing a large factor in keeping the racial divisions in neighborhoods.  Where you were born becomes your home and a place that you identify as such.

I'd be interested to know where this data correlates to income and property values.

Fact: Everyone in Tucson is from somewhere else, and no one outside of Tucson is from here.

I'm about half a country away from my home.

Same here. It was a bullshit statement.

the fact that it's LESS true today than it was 100 years ago doesn't make it a bullshit statement.



In fact, please allow me to rein in my horse and buggy that is either in a land rush or in a gold/silver/copper rush. Can you say immigrants?

AFK

Yeah, if you haven't learned this by now, DP, you can't really throw out a statement like that around here and not be asked to back it up.  I find it pretty hard to believe that "most people" never live more than 10 miles from where they were born.  Certainly there are pockets of that, which will most of the time be related to socio-economic status.  But that is a decidedly different statement than saying most of all people don't live more than 10 miles from where they were born.  

Hell, the trend over the past 10 years is that there has been a net migration from the North East to the South and South West.  Lots of people have moved over the past decade so it seems unlikely to me that your assertion is accurate.  
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 15, 2010, 06:16:09 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:36:22 PM
perhaps the talk about division is because it's real, as the maps seem to indicate.

but we choose to divide ourselves. 

The fact that most people never live more than 10 miles from where they were born could be playing a large factor in keeping the racial divisions in neighborhoods.  Where you were born becomes your home and a place that you identify as such.

I'd be interested to know where this data correlates to income and property values.

Major bullshit.
I'm 5000 miles from home.

I was trying to find statistics for this online, because anecdotal evidence is just anecdotal. Most of the people I know are a long way from their birthplaces, but I don't know how it is in most of the country, and I do know that most of rural Oregon consists of home-towners.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Adios

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 15, 2010, 07:40:16 PM
Yeah, if you haven't learned this by now, DP, you can't really throw out a statement like that around here and not be asked to back it up.  I find it pretty hard to believe that "most people" never live more than 10 miles from where they were born.  Certainly there are pockets of that, which will most of the time be related to socio-economic status.  But that is a decidedly different statement than saying most of all people don't live more than 10 miles from where they were born.  

Hell, the trend over the past 10 years is that there has been a net migration from the North East to the South and South West.  Lots of people have moved over the past decade so it seems unlikely to me that your assertion is accurate.  

Hell, try to find a native Coloradian in Colorado.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 15, 2010, 07:41:07 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 15, 2010, 06:16:09 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:36:22 PM
perhaps the talk about division is because it's real, as the maps seem to indicate.

but we choose to divide ourselves. 

The fact that most people never live more than 10 miles from where they were born could be playing a large factor in keeping the racial divisions in neighborhoods.  Where you were born becomes your home and a place that you identify as such.

I'd be interested to know where this data correlates to income and property values.

Major bullshit.
I'm 5000 miles from home.

I was trying to find statistics for this online, because anecdotal evidence is just anecdotal. Most of the people I know are a long way from their birthplaces, but I don't know how it is in most of the country, and I do know that most of rural Oregon consists of home-towners.

That's because they are barred by law from moving, so they don't spread their diabetes.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Charley Brown on October 15, 2010, 07:43:32 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on October 15, 2010, 07:40:16 PM
Yeah, if you haven't learned this by now, DP, you can't really throw out a statement like that around here and not be asked to back it up.  I find it pretty hard to believe that "most people" never live more than 10 miles from where they were born.  Certainly there are pockets of that, which will most of the time be related to socio-economic status.  But that is a decidedly different statement than saying most of all people don't live more than 10 miles from where they were born.  

Hell, the trend over the past 10 years is that there has been a net migration from the North East to the South and South West.  Lots of people have moved over the past decade so it seems unlikely to me that your assertion is accurate.  

Hell, try to find a native Coloradian in Colorado.

Let's give him a chance to link to a credible source, Charley.
Molon Lube

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 07:43:52 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 15, 2010, 07:41:07 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 15, 2010, 06:16:09 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:36:22 PM
perhaps the talk about division is because it's real, as the maps seem to indicate.

but we choose to divide ourselves. 

The fact that most people never live more than 10 miles from where they were born could be playing a large factor in keeping the racial divisions in neighborhoods.  Where you were born becomes your home and a place that you identify as such.

I'd be interested to know where this data correlates to income and property values.

Major bullshit.
I'm 5000 miles from home.

I was trying to find statistics for this online, because anecdotal evidence is just anecdotal. Most of the people I know are a long way from their birthplaces, but I don't know how it is in most of the country, and I do know that most of rural Oregon consists of home-towners.

That's because they are barred by law from moving, so they don't spread their diabetes.

:lulz:

Well, many Oregonians are of Welsh descent...
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Doktor Howl

Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 15, 2010, 07:45:05 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 07:43:52 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 15, 2010, 07:41:07 PM
Quote from: Sir Squid Diddimus on October 15, 2010, 06:16:09 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 05:36:22 PM
perhaps the talk about division is because it's real, as the maps seem to indicate.

but we choose to divide ourselves. 

The fact that most people never live more than 10 miles from where they were born could be playing a large factor in keeping the racial divisions in neighborhoods.  Where you were born becomes your home and a place that you identify as such.

I'd be interested to know where this data correlates to income and property values.

Major bullshit.
I'm 5000 miles from home.

I was trying to find statistics for this online, because anecdotal evidence is just anecdotal. Most of the people I know are a long way from their birthplaces, but I don't know how it is in most of the country, and I do know that most of rural Oregon consists of home-towners.

That's because they are barred by law from moving, so they don't spread their diabetes.

:lulz:

Well, many Oregonians are of Welsh descent...

See, if Britain had made a law like that, this wouldn't be a problem.

Molon Lube

Disco Pickle

http://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/~fe2r/papers/essay.pdf

pages 15-17 have some graphs..  the preceding pages explain the limits on the data gathered during certain time periods.

it's a good read if you're the type that likes digesting this stuff, otherwise it's going to seem dry.

[EDIT] page 14 has a table with numbers, forgot to add that.
"Events in the past may be roughly divided into those which probably never happened and those which do not matter." --William Ralph Inge

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East Coast Hustle

Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 07:33:49 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on October 15, 2010, 07:32:27 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 15, 2010, 07:30:37 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 15, 2010, 07:29:45 PM
They may get them back, but whether the information is accurate is another matter.

I know I lie like a bastard on those things every decade.

Hell yes, I am now listed as a full blooded Cherokee and Terri is listed as full blooded Blackfeet.

I'm Black and I'm proud.

Ten years ago, I was Hispanic.

Next, I'm thinking Inuit.

I've been an Alaska Native since 2000.

ECH,
never been to Alaska
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The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 15, 2010, 07:38:52 PM
Quote from: ☂ Kim Jong Fred ☂ on October 15, 2010, 04:49:51 PM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 15, 2010, 04:19:33 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 03:44:38 PM
Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 15, 2010, 03:40:53 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 15, 2010, 02:25:17 PM

not that I'm doubting you, assuming you live there and are familiar with the city but.

Quote from: Kiaransalee on October 15, 2010, 02:17:23 PM

Interesting but I call bullshit on the St. Louis one.  The colors are backwards.  
QuoteWhite is NOT the majority in St. Louis
:cn:. Miami however was on target.



REALLY DUDE?

I live in St. Louis now, and lived in Florida for the 20+ years prior to moving here.

Citation my ass!

what would be the gain in altering the statistics for one city?

I am one of two white families in a 5 block radius, My children were 2 of 6 white kids in the whole fucking school.  All I was saying is it was wrong for St. Louis.   I know that for a fact.  With that knowledge, we can deduce that the other cities (not all) are off as well.

maybe you just live in a mostly black neighbourhood/ school district

No, the entire city of St. Louis has a majority of black people.  There are small 2-3 block neighborhoods of whites and one hispanic section but otherwise, whites are the minority everywhere in this city.  I wasn't just refering to one public school, it has been every school my children have attended in this city.

QuoteAccording to the 2000 United States Census[59], there were 348,189 people, 147,076 households, and 76,920 families residing in the city. The population density  was 5,622.9 people per square mile (2,171.2/km²). There were 176,354 housing units at an average density of 2,847.9/sq mi (1,099.7/km²). The racial makeup of the city of St. Louis (as separate and distinct from St. Louis County and the rest of the MSA) was 51.20% African American, 43.85% White, 1.98% Asian, 0.27% Native American, 0.03% Pacific Islander, 0.80% from other ethnic groups, and 1.88% of two or more ethnicities. Hispanic or Latino of any ethnic group were 2.02% of the population.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis,_Missouri#Demographics
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."