Fuck you, Obama, fuck you Democrats, fuck you, appellate court.

[Doktor Howl]

Are they wrong? 

I have always trusted the French on all matters military.

WHOA!

They were only wrong once.

[East Coast Hustle]

Perhaps, but their "once" set the gold standard.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I think it is better for him to appeal now, rather than leaving it sit until the next President decides to pick it up.

[Doktor Howl]

Perhaps, but their "once" set the gold standard.

This is why French soldiers should never be led by French officers.  Put a Corsican midget in front of them, and they own the fuck out of everyone.

[Cain]

Well, except in Russia.  Napoleon got really stupid with age.

Rule 1) Be sure of conditions on the ground which may affect your logistics train and, in particular, food supplies.  Russia is not Germany or the Italian Alps, FFS.

Rule 2) Do not deviate from the plan due to what looks like unexpected Russian weakness.  Never ever ever.

Rule 3) Russians kinda have these dudes called Cossacks fighting for them.  They will hamper your attempts at intelligence gathering and foraging.  Do not expect your cavalry to outclass them.

You'd think Napoleon had never actually been to Russia, the way he acted...

[Requia ☣]

I have to agree on the appellate court in this case.  Having a bunch of people come out of the closet in the military, only to have DADT upheld by SCOTUS, would be very bad for the plaintiffs.

Also, fuck Obama for making this necessary.

[Doktor Howl]

Cain, eventually EVERY European warmonger takes a swing at Russia.

It's like messing with sasquatch.  They can't help it.

[Doktor Howl]

I have to agree on the appellate court in this case.  Having a bunch of people come out of the closet in the military, only to have DADT upheld by SCOTUS, would be very bad for the plaintiffs.

Also, fuck Obama for making this necessary.

Yep.  He's doing what he's told.

[Cain]

Cain, eventually EVERY European warmonger takes a swing at Russia.

It's like messing with sasquatch.  They can't help it.

They should learn to do it properly.  This is what we pay historians for.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I have to agree on the appellate court in this case.  Having a bunch of people come out of the closet in the military, only to have DADT upheld by SCOTUS, would be very bad for the plaintiffs.

Also, fuck Obama for making this necessary.

And you realize that if he doesn't take this to the SC, that the next 'Tea Party' President could?

Personally, I'd rather see it go to the top and either get kicked out and done with, or hope that Congress will repeal it before then.

Letting it sit, only means that the next administration could bring the mess back to the surface. I don't think Obama has a better option... unless it would have been pushing Congress to deal with this two years ago. Granted, he was trying to stop the country from entering a great depression, but I think Congress may be capable of dealing with more than one thing at once... though thats just a theory.

[Cain]

I see no evidence to confirm that Congress are capable of even dealing with one thing at a time.

[Freeky]

I have to agree on the appellate court in this case.  Having a bunch of people come out of the closet in the military, only to have DADT upheld by SCOTUS, would be very bad for the plaintiffs.

Also, fuck Obama for making this necessary.

And you realize that if he doesn't take this to the SC, that the next 'Tea Party' President could?

Personally, I'd rather see it go to the top and either get kicked out and done with, or hope that Congress will repeal it before then.

Letting it sit, only means that the next administration could bring the mess back to the surface. I don't think Obama has a better option... unless it would have been pushing Congress to deal with this two years ago. Granted, he was trying to stop the country from entering a great depression, but I think Congress may be capable of dealing with more than one thing at once... though thats just a theory.

Optimist.

[Requia ☣]

I have to agree on the appellate court in this case.  Having a bunch of people come out of the closet in the military, only to have DADT upheld by SCOTUS, would be very bad for the plaintiffs.

Also, fuck Obama for making this necessary.

And you realize that if he doesn't take this to the SC, that the next 'Tea Party' President could?

Personally, I'd rather see it go to the top and either get kicked out and done with, or hope that Congress will repeal it before then.

Letting it sit, only means that the next administration could bring the mess back to the surface. I don't think Obama has a better option... unless it would have been pushing Congress to deal with this two years ago. Granted, he was trying to stop the country from entering a great depression, but I think Congress may be capable of dealing with more than one thing at once... though thats just a theory.

There is a time limit on how long you can wait before filing an appeal, and Obama's seat is secure for two years.

[Cain]

Well, depending how well Teabagger attempts to impeach him for a being Muslim-Kenyan-Marxist-Black Power militant go.  Or how convincingly they threaten him in order to to get the executive to act as they want.

Not that he needs much in the way of threats, coercion or arguments in order to pre-emptively cave in to the GOP crazy wing, as history shows us.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

I have to agree on the appellate court in this case.  Having a bunch of people come out of the closet in the military, only to have DADT upheld by SCOTUS, would be very bad for the plaintiffs.

Also, fuck Obama for making this necessary.

And you realize that if he doesn't take this to the SC, that the next 'Tea Party' President could?

Personally, I'd rather see it go to the top and either get kicked out and done with, or hope that Congress will repeal it before then.

Letting it sit, only means that the next administration could bring the mess back to the surface. I don't think Obama has a better option... unless it would have been pushing Congress to deal with this two years ago. Granted, he was trying to stop the country from entering a great depression, but I think Congress may be capable of dealing with more than one thing at once... though thats just a theory.

There is a time limit on how long you can wait before filing an appeal, and Obama's seat is secure for two years.

There is also an option for a Federal Court to reopen the Appeal time for 14 days if certain criteria are met. If Obama takes it the the Supreme Court now, then the book gets closed one way or the other.