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YOU ballance the budget!

Started by Prince Glittersnatch III, November 14, 2010, 06:07:22 PM

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Freeky

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2010, 08:18:01 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on November 15, 2010, 08:17:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2010, 08:15:52 PM
Quote from: First City Hustle on November 15, 2010, 08:14:01 PM
well, typically groceries (or at least staples) aren't included in sales tax.

but change that to a $500 computer for your kid that now costs $700.

The teabagger's tax would apply to all goods and services.

You're kidding?



:|

ALL goods and services.  I shall provide a link tonight, if you remind me.

Ugh. I believe you, but I'll remind you anyway, because I want to read the article.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 15, 2010, 08:18:38 PM
The one in the budget proposal is 5%.  

Yeah, and the one advanced by the new congress, which gets seated in January, is 23%.

Since they aren't seated yet, they haven't actually had a chance to submit a budget proposal.
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- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Thurnez Isa

they have to get money somewhere... it's not official but it seems Obama has buckled on the bush tax cuts

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/10/white-house-gives-in-on-bush-tax-cuts_n_781992.html
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Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
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East Coast Hustle

If the teabaggers actually push that through, I'm fucking out. I have somewhere to go that won't be affected, but I'll feel damn sorry for the rest of you.
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Juana

Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on November 15, 2010, 08:16:18 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on November 15, 2010, 08:11:28 PM
National sales tax is not the same as a state sales tax. A national one would be on top of your state and local tax, and would hit things like rent.

Let's look at my locality + California + national sales tax (23% as per tea bagger desires).
My city: 10%
California: 7.25%
National: 23%

I buy $50 in groceries. Add $5, $3.63, $11.50 in taxes, and that's about $70.

What ECH said.
I just checked and my numbers are still (mostly) accurate. Stuff you can buy with WIC stamps are exempt from California and local taxes, but nothing else is. So assuming that I buy $30 in staples, that leaves $20 taxable ($2 and $1.45 plus the $11.50) which totals at $64.95.
"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Thurnez Isa on November 15, 2010, 08:24:25 PM
they have to get money somewhere...

Sure, so let's assrape everyone who makes less than $325K/yr.

:lulz:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Thurnez Isa

That sounds like (insert buzzword of the week) talk to me.
Through me the way to the city of woe, Through me the way to everlasting pain, Through me the way among the lost.
Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

Dante

Freeky

Quote from: Hover Cat on November 15, 2010, 08:25:53 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on November 15, 2010, 08:16:18 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on November 15, 2010, 08:11:28 PM
National sales tax is not the same as a state sales tax. A national one would be on top of your state and local tax, and would hit things like rent.

Let's look at my locality + California + national sales tax (23% as per tea bagger desires).
My city: 10%
California: 7.25%
National: 23%

I buy $50 in groceries. Add $5, $3.63, $11.50 in taxes, and that's about $70.

What ECH said.
I just checked and my numbers are still (mostly) accurate. Stuff you can buy with WIC stamps are exempt from California and local taxes, but nothing else is. So assuming that I buy $30 in staples, that leaves $20 taxable ($2 and $1.45 plus the $11.50) which totals at $64.95.

That's a whole lot of painful.

Requia ☣

If they really put a 23% tax on everything, then I'm going to have very little in the way of reasons not to just shoot IRS agents for fun, its not like I'll be able to afford to stay out of jail anyway.

Of course, neither will most of the teabaggers responsible for this shit, so maybe I'll try to stay out long enough to get a good laugh in.
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The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 15, 2010, 08:31:02 PM
If they really put a 23% tax on everything, then I'm going to have very little in the way of reasons not to just shoot IRS agents for fun, its not like I'll be able to afford to stay out of jail anyway.

Of course, neither will most of the teabaggers responsible for this shit, so maybe I'll try to stay out long enough to get a good laugh in.

You won't see IRS agents.  You'll see the 18 year old girl clerking the register at the grocery store.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Juana

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2010, 08:32:14 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 15, 2010, 08:31:02 PM
If they really put a 23% tax on everything, then I'm going to have very little in the way of reasons not to just shoot IRS agents for fun, its not like I'll be able to afford to stay out of jail anyway.

Of course, neither will most of the teabaggers responsible for this shit, so maybe I'll try to stay out long enough to get a good laugh in.

You won't see IRS agents.  You'll see the 18 year old girl clerking the register at the grocery store.
Yep. IIRC, this would replace the income tax, so fewer IRS agents will be running around.
"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Hover Cat on November 15, 2010, 08:34:46 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2010, 08:32:14 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on November 15, 2010, 08:31:02 PM
If they really put a 23% tax on everything, then I'm going to have very little in the way of reasons not to just shoot IRS agents for fun, its not like I'll be able to afford to stay out of jail anyway.

Of course, neither will most of the teabaggers responsible for this shit, so maybe I'll try to stay out long enough to get a good laugh in.

You won't see IRS agents.  You'll see the 18 year old girl clerking the register at the grocery store.
Yep. IIRC, this would replace the income tax, so fewer IRS agents will be running around.

We have an inexhaustible supply of teenagers to shoot, so why the hell not?   :lulz:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Thurnez Isa

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2010, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on November 15, 2010, 08:30:25 PM
That sounds like (insert buzzword of the week) talk to me.

wut

I've lost track of all the scary buzzwords now days.
:sad:
There was the evil commi/nazis, socialists, hippies, liberals, atheists, Izlamists, Canadians... I don't even know anymore
Through me the way to the city of woe, Through me the way to everlasting pain, Through me the way among the lost.
Justice moved my maker on high.
Divine power made me, Wisdom supreme, and Primal love.
Before me nothing was but things eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, you who enter here.

Dante

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Thurnez Isa on November 15, 2010, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on November 15, 2010, 08:31:33 PM
Quote from: Thurnez Isa on November 15, 2010, 08:30:25 PM
That sounds like (insert buzzword of the week) talk to me.

wut

I've lost track of all the scary buzzwords now days.
:sad:
There was the evil commi/nazis, socialists, hippies, liberals, atheists, Izlamists, Canadians... I don't even know anymore

I think the term nowadays is "scum".

PREDICTION:  Even though they have what they want - or what they think they want - the teabagger rallies will continue.  Ho ho!  It's easier to use rallies to blame <insert group> for failed policies, rather than actually govern.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.