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Started by Cuddlefish, November 22, 2010, 11:40:53 PM

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Lies

- So the New World Order does not actually exist?
- Oh it exists, and how!
Ask the slaves whose labour built the White House;
Ask the slaves of today tied down to sweatshops and brothels to escape hunger;
Ask most women, second class citizens, in a pervasive rape culture;
Ask the non-human creatures who inhabit the planet:
whales, bears, frogs, tuna, bees, slaughtered farm animals;
Ask the natives of the Americas and Australia on whose land
you live today, on whose graves your factories, farms and neighbourhoods stand;
ask any of them this, ask them if the New World Order is true;
they'll tell you plainly: the New World Order... is you!

geekdad

Making you think you're crazy is a billion dollar industry.
If they could sell sanity in a bottle
They'd be charging for compressed air,
And marketing healthcare.

Cain

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/15/tsa-probe-scan-resistor/

QuoteThe Transportation Security Administration has opened an investigation targeting John Tyner, the Oceanside man who left Lindbergh Field under duress on Saturday morning after refusing to undertake a full body scan.

Tyner recorded the half-hour long encounter on his cell phone and later posted it to his personal blog, along with an extensive account of the incident. The blog went viral, attracting hundreds of thousands of readers and thousands of comments.

Michael J. Aguilar, chief of the TSA office in San Diego, called a news conference at the airport Monday afternoon to announce the probe. He said the investigation could lead to prosecution and civil penalties of up to $11,000.

TSA agents had told Tyner on Saturday that he could be fined up to $10,000.

"That's the old fine," Aguilar said. "It has been increased."

geekdad

Quote from: Subetai on November 23, 2010, 08:41:19 AM
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/15/tsa-probe-scan-resistor/

QuoteThe Transportation Security Administration has opened an investigation targeting John Tyner, the Oceanside man who left Lindbergh Field under duress on Saturday morning after refusing to undertake a full body scan.

Tyner recorded the half-hour long encounter on his cell phone and later posted it to his personal blog, along with an extensive account of the incident. The blog went viral, attracting hundreds of thousands of readers and thousands of comments.

Michael J. Aguilar, chief of the TSA office in San Diego, called a news conference at the airport Monday afternoon to announce the probe. He said the investigation could lead to prosecution and civil penalties of up to $11,000.

TSA agents had told Tyner on Saturday that he could be fined up to $10,000.

"That's the old fine," Aguilar said. "It has been increased."


I hope he fights it in court and it goes to the SOCTUS. This case would be  perfect for the ACLU to take.
Making you think you're crazy is a billion dollar industry.
If they could sell sanity in a bottle
They'd be charging for compressed air,
And marketing healthcare.

LMNO

If people really opt out on the day before thanksgiving, I'll tell you what happens:

TSA agents give a half-smile, and say, "Fine.  Step this way."  They then spend fifteen minutes patting the person down.  While this is happening, no one else is allowed to go through security.

Cut to three hours later, when 80% of passengers have missed their flights and are still waiting in line, and this fun little protest isn't so fun anymore.

It's the TSA's job to stay at the airport for the duration of their shift, and then go home.  It's the airline's job to depart on time.

Nowhere does it say that either the TSA or the airline is responsible for getting passengers on their flights.  What the protesters are failing to grasp is that the majority of passengers don't want to be in the airport any longer than they have to be, and just want to get to their destinations.  "Sticking it to the man" by missing their flight isn't really going to benefit them.


End result: The passengers are screwed, nothing changes.



LMNO
-Just nuke me and get me to the fucking gate, already.  Enjoy the pictures of my cock.

AFK

LMNO is flying the correct jet liner. 

The opt out day will make for good headlines, but it isn't going to change screening procedures.  I mean, it's great people are pissed and are thinking about doing something.  It's just that, this something really isn't going to do anything. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

"Give me liberty or give me death.  Just don't inconvenience me."
- Patrick Somebody
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

Perhaps my rant came out that way.  However, that's not really my intention.

My choices appear to be:
1) Backscatter, look at my junk, continue on my way.
2) Groped, feel my junk, continue on my way.
3) Refuse both, be detained, face possible fine.
4) Don't fly in the first place.


NONE of these choices would change the current procedure.  There has to be a better way to get the TSA to change their policies, because opting out won't do it.

AFK

Angry mobs at town halls.  Look what it did to health care. 

Or maybe angry mobs at airports.  Maybe it isn't enough to just opt out.  Maybe folks need to opt out AND get mad. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Suu

The way I look at it, maybe I can scar someone for life by them having to look at my fat white ass when I walk through the backscatter...because when I head to Tampa next month for Christmas, I will be PISSED if I get stuck in the fucking line because everyone is opting out. Fuck you, I wanna get on my goddamn plane! It's bad enough I'm flying out of Logan and not Green.

Write letters or something...Call your senators...It worked for me with Sallie Mae and the student loan bullshit, it can work for this if you have enough people.

Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Richter

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on November 23, 2010, 02:19:10 PM
Angry mobs at town halls.  Look what it did to health care. 

Or maybe angry mobs at airports.  Maybe it isn't enough to just opt out.  Maybe folks need to opt out AND get mad. 

True, but those would have to escalate pretty far to get attention.  Otherwise, it's just another minor blockage in the great pre - airplane ride colon.  
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on May 22, 2015, 03:00:53 AM
Anyone ever think about how Richter inhabits the same reality as you and just scream and scream and scream, but in a good way?   :lulz:

Friendly Neighborhood Mentat

Whatever

They were talking about this on the news this morning.  It's like LMNO said, the only result of a mass protest is a lot of people missing their flight.

They had some representative from Lambert Airport who said that people who missed their flight because of delays would not be reimbursed.  It sucks but at $600 +/- for a round trip flight, I don't think most people can afford to miss their flight.  

It's not that I agree with the grope downs or even the see me naked scan.  I just don't see protesting at the airport and making people miss flights and lose money as a positive way to sway people to a cause.  :?

AFK

Get Republicans all riled up.  They'll introduce legislation to abolish the TSA and then Obama will compromise and get rid of the scanners and gropings.  
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Whatever

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on November 23, 2010, 02:28:24 PM
Get Republicans all riled up.  They'll introduce legislation to abolish the TSA and then Obama will compromise and get rid of the scanners and gropings.  

Get Rand Paul, if he doesn't change your mind he'll stomp the idea into your head?? 

AFK

That would require listening to him talk.  Is it just me or does anyone else find the cadence of his voice to be extremely annoying?  Every time I hear him talk I want to punch the TV. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.