WOW, oh wow I just... WOW

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Update: I was talking about this at home over the break, and my dad actually tried to argue for it.
His logic argument was
Pilgrims left because of religious persecution
In socialism the government has more control
Socialism leads to religious persecution (implied to be against christians)


It's a wonder I ended up the way I am now.

This is just further proof that the word socialism has become absolutely meaningless.

[Xieante Antitheus]

Ridiculous...

Here is another little interesting tid-bit for you to "gobble" up... (In relation)

The Mayflower Society, a group for those that have proven direct ancestry to the American colonialists; taking pride in the will of the 'original' pilgrims and what they achieved, is ran by the Catholic Church.

O.K. so the Puritans left because they didn't believe the Church of England reformed enough from Catholicism...
Alrighty then.

There is no history, just modern idiocracy.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Ridiculous...

Here is another little interesting tid-bit for you to "gobble" up... (In relation)

The Mayflower Society, a group for those that have proven direct ancestry to the American colonialists; taking pride in the will of the 'original' pilgrims and what they achieved, is ran by the Catholic Church.

O.K. so the Puritans left because they didn't believe the Church of England reformed enough from Catholicism...
Alrighty then.

There is no history, just modern idiocracy.

Well, sure, but that's because they had to breed with us filthy Irish after we overran Massachusetts. It's an open secret that the Vatican uses us to immigrate en masse and seduce the local women in order to convert them to the Catholic Church.

[Xieante Antitheus]

Well, sure, but that's because they had to breed with us filthy Irish after we overran Massachusetts. It's an open secret that the Vatican uses us to immigrate en masse and seduce the local women in order to convert them to the Catholic Church.

HA, Ya got a point there...

Cretins.

[Precious Moments Zalgo]

This is just further proof that the word socialism has become absolutely meaningless.

Socialism /ˈsoʊʃəˌlɪzəm/ noun
1. Any act or policy of government that I, as a Christian conservative, oppose.
2. Any entitlement spending or government program that doesn't benefit me personally.
3. Government regulation of business to enforce pollution controls, product safety, fraud prevention, and fair treatment of workers, as opposed to relying on industry self-regulation, which would totally work if government would just get out of the way.
4. Anything proposed by any Democrat, but only when being proposed by a Democrat.  When a Republican proposes the same thing, it is not Socialism, unless said Republican is a RINO.

Synonyms: Communism, Democratic Party, Doubleplus Ungood, Entitlement Spending, Evolution, Fascism, Genocide, George Soros, Global Warming, Islam, Liberalism, Nazism, Obamacare, Populism, Public Schools, Republican in Name Only (RINO), Secularism, Slavery, Terrorism

[Juana]

Socialism /ˈsoʊʃəˌlɪzəm/ noun
1. Any act or policy of government that I, as a Christian conservative, oppose.
2. Any entitlement spending or government program that I think doesn't benefit me personally.
3. Government regulation of business to enforce pollution controls, product safety, fraud prevention, and fair treatment of workers, as opposed to relying on industry self-regulation, which would totally work if government would just get out of the way.
4. Anything proposed by any Democrat, but only when being proposed by a Democrat.  When a Republican proposes the same thing, it is not Socialism, unless said Republican is a RINO.

Synonyms: Communism, Democratic Party, Entitlement Spending, Evolution, Fascism, Genocide, George Soros, Global Warming, Islam, Liberalism, Nazism, Obamacare, Populism, Public Schools, Republican in Name Only (RINO), Secularism, Slavery, Terrorism

fix'd

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Socialism /ˈsoʊʃəˌlɪzəm/ noun
1. Any act or policy of government that I, as a Christian conservative, oppose.
2. Any entitlement spending or government program that doesn't benefit me personally.
3. Government regulation of business to enforce pollution controls, product safety, fraud prevention, and fair treatment of workers, as opposed to relying on industry self-regulation, which would totally work if government would just get out of the way.
4. Anything proposed by any Democrat, but only when being proposed by a Democrat.  When a Republican proposes the same thing, it is not Socialism, unless said Republican is a RINO.

Synonyms: Communism, Democratic Party, Doubleplus Ungood, Entitlement Spending, Evolution, Fascism, Genocide, George Soros, Global Warming, Islam, Liberalism, Nazism, Obamacare, Populism, Public Schools, Republican in Name Only (RINO), Secularism, Slavery, Terrorism

You forgot Atheism, Religious Atheism, Europeans, Unions, Canadians, the entire Northeast, Urban Californians and Satan

[Iason Ouabache]

So... was he trying to say that the Pilgrims were socialist when they first got to Plymouth, almost starved to death, and then switched to capitalism? That is the least insane explanation and it's still a whole lot of guano.

A better explanation:  http://budiansky.blogspot.com/2010/11/commies-and-cranberries.html

According to the ever-reliable Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and various tea party websites, the original English settlers practiced a kind of collectivism is which all worked the land together and shared the proceeds; this led to bickering, thievery, idleness, and famine as the settlers refused to toil when they could not each reap the benefits of their own work. Only when they abandoned such dangerous socialist ideas and divvied up the land into individual privately-owned parcels did they at last enjoy a bountiful harvest . . . which is what we are actually celebrating at Thanksgiving. (Of course, no right-wing historical revisionism is complete without a conspiracy theory and a sense of victimization at the hands of the liberal elite: so it turns out that this "real reason for Thanksgiving" was "deleted from the official story," according to one widely circulated retelling that has appeared on tea party blogs.)

And why they are wrong:

Actually, the first English colonists in Massachusetts and Virginia did work together, but this was neither the cause of their misfortune nor a reflection of any utopian, much less collectivist, spirit: the colonies were organized and backed by joint-stock companies of wealthy English merchants — and the settlers worked for the company.

The real problem, though, was that the men recruited for Jamestown and Plymouth were expecting quick and easy riches without having to work at all.

Most of the participants of the debacle at Jamestown listed their occupation as "Gentleman," which was defined at the time as, "Whosoever can live without manual labor." John Smith kept desperately requesting that the company send men who possessed some actual skills and who were willing to get off their rear ends and work, but to no avail: "When you sende againe I intreat you rather send but thirty Carpenters, husbandmen, Gardiners, fishermen, blacksmiths . . . than a thousand such as we have." Likewise he advised the Puritans, planning their colony in Massachusetts, "One hundred good labourers better than a thousand such Gallants as were sent to me, that would do nothing but complaine, curse, and despaire, when they saw all things clean contrary to the report in England."

[Cain]

So, what you're saying is the effete, latte-sipping liberal elitists of the 16th century who had never done a hard day's work in their life are what nearly ruined America?