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Westboro Baptist will picket Elizabeth Edwards' funeral

Started by Adios, December 09, 2010, 05:54:09 PM

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Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 13, 2010, 02:59:59 PM
Yeah, bringing them some more media attention will really show them what for!

I wasn't thinking of getting the media involved...  :sad:

AFK

Unless you are doing it by yourself and very quietly, I would suspect it would be difficult to protest one of the most controversial groups in the country and NOT get media coverage. 

In any event, I'm not sure picketing them would really do much.  Not trying to be a Douglas Downer here but a group like that isn't ever going to listen to reason, or anything with a passing semblance to reason.  For them to get a taste of their own medicine they'd have to give a shit about what others think about them, and clearly, they don't. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

hooplala

It could have a beneficial point, though... the evangelicals are getting more and more vocal in the last ten years and most people who oppose them never speak up, so it appears that they hold more ground.  Clearly they do not.  Niamh's picketing would show that there are people who are sick and tired of the rhetoric, and are willing to voice their disapproval.

I mean, when Janet Jackson's nipple popped out on live television people complained... but how many people were NOT offended?  Who knows, none of them wrote in... only the ones who were offended wrote in.  Probably in crayon.

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AFK

But I think the Westboro clan are so far gone off the edge of reality that it wouldn't matter.  Public opinion and public pressure was able to sway that kooky pastor in Florida to refrain from burning the Koran.  He seemed to be just sane enough to figure out that it was a stupid idea, and smartly caved. 

But I think Westboro are in a totally different league.  I mean, nobody likes them.  Even Bill O and Fox News types will rail against them.  Doesn't seem to matter.  They don't care. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Adios

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on December 13, 2010, 03:50:24 PM
But I think the Westboro clan are so far gone off the edge of reality that it wouldn't matter.  Public opinion and public pressure was able to sway that kooky pastor in Florida to refrain from burning the Koran.  He seemed to be just sane enough to figure out that it was a stupid idea, and smartly caved. 

But I think Westboro are in a totally different league.  I mean, nobody likes them.  Even Bill O and Fox News types will rail against them.  Doesn't seem to matter.  They don't care. 

They won't even allow the graffiti on their church cleaned off because "it shows they are right".

BadBeast

Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2010, 03:43:54 PM
It could have a beneficial point, though... the evangelicals are getting more and more vocal in the last ten years and most people who oppose them never speak up, so it appears that they hold more ground.  Clearly they do not.  Niamh's picketing would show that there are people who are sick and tired of the rhetoric, and are willing to voice their disapproval.

I mean, when Janet Jackson's nipple popped out on live television people complained... but how many people were NOT offended?  Who knows, none of them wrote in... only the ones who were offended wrote in.  Probably in crayon.


Gotta agree with Hoop here. And I'd add that even most of the ones who wrote in offended, were actually aroused rather than offended. They were then offended by their own arousal, and wrote in out of con-fu. Pretty much like when Nigel's nipple almost brought TCC to a grinding halt.
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Quote from: Charley Brown on December 10, 2010, 08:43:12 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 10, 2010, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on December 10, 2010, 08:02:43 PM
I hope something like that happens at Ewards's funeral - people placing themselves between the WBC people and the funeral proper. I dunno if it will, but it would be nice.

Actually, I was sorta hoping daydreaming about a buncha people with big baseball bats would get out of a lot of vehicles and bit the motherfucking shit outta the Westboro gang.  But then, that's promulgating violence, and I'd never do such a thing.  Ever.

And that would make them the good guys.

In theory, yes. But in practice, in whose eyes?

(not disagreeing btw, just that question immediately popped to mind when I read it)
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Quote from: Charley Brown on December 10, 2010, 08:43:12 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 10, 2010, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on December 10, 2010, 08:02:43 PM
I hope something like that happens at Ewards's funeral - people placing themselves between the WBC people and the funeral proper. I dunno if it will, but it would be nice.

Actually, I was sorta hoping daydreaming about a buncha people with big baseball bats would get out of a lot of vehicles and bit the motherfucking shit outta the Westboro gang.  But then, that's promulgating violence, and I'd never do such a thing.  Ever.

And that would make them the good guys.

No.  It wouldn't.

It would simply make the people doing it a different kind of bad guy.  It would in no way exonerate Phelps, either morally or in the public eye.  At most it would get him some more press, and get the people doing it a prison term.

You could pound Fred Phelps and his entire family into a paper shredder with a mallet, and not a soul would condemn you.
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- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

hooplala

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2010, 08:40:31 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on December 10, 2010, 08:43:12 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 10, 2010, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on December 10, 2010, 08:02:43 PM
I hope something like that happens at Ewards's funeral - people placing themselves between the WBC people and the funeral proper. I dunno if it will, but it would be nice.

Actually, I was sorta hoping daydreaming about a buncha people with big baseball bats would get out of a lot of vehicles and bit the motherfucking shit outta the Westboro gang.  But then, that's promulgating violence, and I'd never do such a thing.  Ever.

And that would make them the good guys.

No.  It wouldn't.

It would simply make the people doing it a different kind of bad guy.  It would in no way exonerate Phelps, either morally or in the public eye.  At most it would get him some more press, and get the people doing it a prison term.

You could pound Fred Phelps and his entire family into a paper shredder with a mallet, and not a soul would condemn you.

I would.  But not because I think Phelps is a good guy.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2010, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2010, 08:40:31 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on December 10, 2010, 08:43:12 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 10, 2010, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on December 10, 2010, 08:02:43 PM
I hope something like that happens at Ewards's funeral - people placing themselves between the WBC people and the funeral proper. I dunno if it will, but it would be nice.

Actually, I was sorta hoping daydreaming about a buncha people with big baseball bats would get out of a lot of vehicles and bit the motherfucking shit outta the Westboro gang.  But then, that's promulgating violence, and I'd never do such a thing.  Ever.

And that would make them the good guys.

No.  It wouldn't.

It would simply make the people doing it a different kind of bad guy.  It would in no way exonerate Phelps, either morally or in the public eye.  At most it would get him some more press, and get the people doing it a prison term.

You could pound Fred Phelps and his entire family into a paper shredder with a mallet, and not a soul would condemn you.

I would.  But not because I think Phelps is a good guy.

Yes, but you're Canadian, and thus are not in possession of a soul.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

hooplala

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2010, 08:47:04 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2010, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2010, 08:40:31 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on December 10, 2010, 08:43:12 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 10, 2010, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on December 10, 2010, 08:02:43 PM
I hope something like that happens at Ewards's funeral - people placing themselves between the WBC people and the funeral proper. I dunno if it will, but it would be nice.

Actually, I was sorta hoping daydreaming about a buncha people with big baseball bats would get out of a lot of vehicles and bit the motherfucking shit outta the Westboro gang.  But then, that's promulgating violence, and I'd never do such a thing.  Ever.

And that would make them the good guys.

No.  It wouldn't.

It would simply make the people doing it a different kind of bad guy.  It would in no way exonerate Phelps, either morally or in the public eye.  At most it would get him some more press, and get the people doing it a prison term.

You could pound Fred Phelps and his entire family into a paper shredder with a mallet, and not a soul would condemn you.

I would.  But not because I think Phelps is a good guy.

Yes, but you're Canadian, and thus are not in possession of a soul.

And we like it that way.  Except when we listen to James Brown... that's the only time we truly know there is some part we're missing.  You can really feel that hole in the middle when listening to the Godfather.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2010, 08:57:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2010, 08:47:04 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2010, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2010, 08:40:31 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on December 10, 2010, 08:43:12 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 10, 2010, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on December 10, 2010, 08:02:43 PM
I hope something like that happens at Ewards's funeral - people placing themselves between the WBC people and the funeral proper. I dunno if it will, but it would be nice.

Actually, I was sorta hoping daydreaming about a buncha people with big baseball bats would get out of a lot of vehicles and bit the motherfucking shit outta the Westboro gang.  But then, that's promulgating violence, and I'd never do such a thing.  Ever.

And that would make them the good guys.

No.  It wouldn't.

It would simply make the people doing it a different kind of bad guy.  It would in no way exonerate Phelps, either morally or in the public eye.  At most it would get him some more press, and get the people doing it a prison term.

You could pound Fred Phelps and his entire family into a paper shredder with a mallet, and not a soul would condemn you.

I would.  But not because I think Phelps is a good guy.

Yes, but you're Canadian, and thus are not in possession of a soul.

And we like it that way.  Except when we listen to James Brown... that's the only time we truly know there is some part we're missing.  You can really feel that hole in the middle when listening to the Godfather.

I've seen that happen.  A whole room full of Hamiltonians started dancing with just the left side of their body.  I thought they were all having strokes.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

hooplala

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2010, 08:59:10 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2010, 08:57:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2010, 08:47:04 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2010, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2010, 08:40:31 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on December 10, 2010, 08:43:12 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 10, 2010, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on December 10, 2010, 08:02:43 PM
I hope something like that happens at Ewards's funeral - people placing themselves between the WBC people and the funeral proper. I dunno if it will, but it would be nice.

Actually, I was sorta hoping daydreaming about a buncha people with big baseball bats would get out of a lot of vehicles and bit the motherfucking shit outta the Westboro gang.  But then, that's promulgating violence, and I'd never do such a thing.  Ever.

And that would make them the good guys.

No.  It wouldn't.

It would simply make the people doing it a different kind of bad guy.  It would in no way exonerate Phelps, either morally or in the public eye.  At most it would get him some more press, and get the people doing it a prison term.

You could pound Fred Phelps and his entire family into a paper shredder with a mallet, and not a soul would condemn you.

I would.  But not because I think Phelps is a good guy.

Yes, but you're Canadian, and thus are not in possession of a soul.

And we like it that way.  Except when we listen to James Brown... that's the only time we truly know there is some part we're missing.  You can really feel that hole in the middle when listening to the Godfather.

I've seen that happen.  A whole room full of Hamiltonians started dancing with just the left side of their body.  I thought they were all having strokes.

They wish.


They wish...
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Adios

Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2010, 08:57:23 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2010, 08:47:04 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 13, 2010, 08:44:02 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 13, 2010, 08:40:31 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on December 10, 2010, 08:43:12 PM
Quote from: Jenne on December 10, 2010, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Hover Cat on December 10, 2010, 08:02:43 PM
I hope something like that happens at Ewards's funeral - people placing themselves between the WBC people and the funeral proper. I dunno if it will, but it would be nice.

Actually, I was sorta hoping daydreaming about a buncha people with big baseball bats would get out of a lot of vehicles and bit the motherfucking shit outta the Westboro gang.  But then, that's promulgating violence, and I'd never do such a thing.  Ever.

And that would make them the good guys.

No.  It wouldn't.

It would simply make the people doing it a different kind of bad guy.  It would in no way exonerate Phelps, either morally or in the public eye.  At most it would get him some more press, and get the people doing it a prison term.

You could pound Fred Phelps and his entire family into a paper shredder with a mallet, and not a soul would condemn you.

I would.  But not because I think Phelps is a good guy.

Yes, but you're Canadian, and thus are not in possession of a soul.

And we like it that way.  Except when we listen to James Brown... that's the only time we truly know there is some part we're missing.  You can really feel that hole in the middle when listening to the Godfather.

:lulz: