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Started by Adios, December 15, 2010, 06:55:47 PM

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Zenpeanut

Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on December 16, 2010, 06:32:31 PM
Is because sperms do not has mitocondriums.

Eggs has mitochondriums.

:cn:

Sperm is actually packed full of mitochondria, way more than the egg, but its the egg's mitochondria that gets replicated.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Able on December 16, 2010, 08:44:01 PM
Roger FYI

I actually support a jewish state, history says
they were there before the empire evicted them
Just like I would support taking away land from a whiteman
to give it to a tribe, even if they use it to build a casino

Actually, if you read Josephus, the Roman Empire was amazingly tolerant, until they couldn't be tolerant anymore.  It's a fairly disgusting read, and Emperor Titus didn't give them half the kicking around they deserved.

You can get Josephus in the Penguin translation for a few bucks at Borders or Barnes & Nobel.  It's basically the history of the Middle East boiled down into about 10 years.
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Quote from: Zenpeanut on December 16, 2010, 08:48:58 PM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on December 16, 2010, 06:32:31 PM
Is because sperms do not has mitocondriums.

Eggs has mitochondriums.

:cn:

Sperm is actually packed full of mitochondria, way more than the egg, but its the egg's mitochondria that gets replicated.

Hmmm... Internets agree.

I did not know that.
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Suu

I believe it's because the sperms mitochondria is located in the tail, which is not absorbed by the ovum.
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Quote from: Suu on December 16, 2010, 09:32:49 PM
I believe it's because the sperms mitochondria is located in the tail, which is not absorbed by the ovum.

As mitochondria are primarily energy production hot-spots, that doesn't surprise me.
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And here I was, getting yelled at for going off topic.   :lol:
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2010, 08:49:16 PM
Quote from: Able on December 16, 2010, 08:44:01 PM
Roger FYI

I actually support a jewish state, history says
they were there before the empire evicted them
Just like I would support taking away land from a whiteman
to give it to a tribe, even if they use it to build a casino

Actually, if you read Josephus, the Roman Empire was amazingly tolerant, until they couldn't be tolerant anymore.  It's a fairly disgusting read, and Emperor Titus didn't give them half the kicking around they deserved.

You can get Josephus in the Penguin translation for a few bucks at Borders or Barnes & Nobel.  It's basically the history of the Middle East boiled down into about 10 years.

Yes, he is a very good book to read... though there are definitely some bits that you have to take with a bit of salt (the ability he has to really vilify his enemies is worthy of FOX News).

However, his picture of the situation in Israel at the time was pretty damned interesting (and pretty damning).

I mean if we take Jewish History per the Pentatuch and Mishnah, they were pretty shitty to their neighbors and then later Judea was pretty shitty to the other ten tribes and their neighbors. But then they were pretty shitty to their God too (You saved us, now we will worship this statue of a calf... You saved us, now we will go have an orgy and worship Baal... You saved us, now we will go worship the Queen of Heaven...)

Josephus tends to support the view that they were a pretty freakin' crazy nation at the turn of the millennium.

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Quote from: Ratatosk on December 16, 2010, 10:02:21 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2010, 08:49:16 PM
Quote from: Able on December 16, 2010, 08:44:01 PM
Roger FYI

I actually support a jewish state, history says
they were there before the empire evicted them
Just like I would support taking away land from a whiteman
to give it to a tribe, even if they use it to build a casino

Actually, if you read Josephus, the Roman Empire was amazingly tolerant, until they couldn't be tolerant anymore.  It's a fairly disgusting read, and Emperor Titus didn't give them half the kicking around they deserved.

You can get Josephus in the Penguin translation for a few bucks at Borders or Barnes & Nobel.  It's basically the history of the Middle East boiled down into about 10 years.

Yes, he is a very good book to read... though there are definitely some bits that you have to take with a bit of salt (the ability he has to really vilify his enemies is worthy of FOX News).

However, his picture of the situation in Israel at the time was pretty damned interesting (and pretty damning).

I mean if we take Jewish History per the Pentatuch and Mishnah, they were pretty shitty to their neighbors and then later Judea was pretty shitty to the other ten tribes and their neighbors. But then they were pretty shitty to their God too (You saved us, now we will worship this statue of a calf... You saved us, now we will go have an orgy and worship Baal... You saved us, now we will go worship the Queen of Heaven...)

Josephus tends to support the view that they were a pretty freakin' crazy nation at the turn of the millennium.



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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2010, 10:01:28 PM
And here I was, getting yelled at for going off topic.   :lol:
I thought going off topic was a time-honored tradition here.
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Quote from: Cainad on December 16, 2010, 06:28:40 PM
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Nuclear DNA, as far as I know, is the majority of what we consider to be an individual's genetic code. It's the part that lies roughly in the center of each cell.

Mitochondrial DNA lies within the cellular organelles called mitochondria, separate from the nucleus of the cell. In other words, the DNA for an extremely critical component of basically all animal cells is actually part of that specific organelle, not the rest of the cell. For some reason, mitochondrial DNA is only inherited through the mother, so it's possible to trace back maternal family lines for quite a few generations, because it remains essentially unchanged while the rest of the DNA goes through the food processor that is cellular meiosis.

And that's as far as I'm willing to go without doing some internets research.

Cainad:

The other reason it's so much easier to get mtDNA out of a specimen (whatever it may be) is that there's so much more of it. Sure, there are many cells in a body, but most cells have multiple mitochondria, and many have great amounts. Makes it very easy to take a small sample of tissue, run PCR, and get a sequence which is useful for determination. The DNA still degrades over time, but there's that much more of it, so theres a greater chance of getting it even if the sample is say, 50+ years old. I know for a fact that entomologists have gotten mtDNA out of pinhead sized samples from 25 year old dry preserved insects (not frozen; cooled DNA, even in ethanol, can last much much much longer), so I'm not surprised they could get some out of a much bigger piece of human skin.

Also, the reason it's only inherited through the mother is because male mitochondria aren't incorporated into the female oocyte at the time of fertilization. A word of caution though, some mtDNA genes mutate quite a bit faster than those in the nucleus. Cytochrome c Oxidase I being a good example.
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2010, 04:08:10 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 16, 2010, 02:23:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 16, 2010, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 16, 2010, 12:56:36 PM
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Quote from: Nigel on December 16, 2010, 12:33:40 AM
For the record, I, too, think Israel is a political abomination and a human rights nightmare.

But that's a political opinion, not anti-semitism.

Yep. Hating Israel as a political entity is vastly different from hating Jews. Sometimes people have a really hard time recognizing or accepting that, though.

didn't you hear? disagreement with Israel or anything it does is the new anti-semitism.

obviously.

That's not what happened here.  Fuck off, you scabby little twit.

wasn't talking to you, dick.

Naw.  You were just poisoning the well a bit.


after 24 hours and a reread of the thread, I agree my comment was unnecessarily antagonistic.

apologies.

you're still a dick though.
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Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on December 17, 2010, 03:01:04 PM
apologies.

you're still a dick though.

1.  No sweat.

2.  This has never been disputed.  Holy Men™ aren't here to make people comfortable.
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"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
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