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Re: Buchenwald Lampshade Found
« Reply #120 on: December 16, 2010, 05:32:02 pm »
And considering that the DNA can't even come up with race... its unlikely that we could definitively tie it back to a specific group that was persecuted by the Nazis. Maybe Jewish, or homosexual or JW or Pacifist or a Von Trapp Family Singer.

Burying it would just be burying a lampshade at this point. Maybe some paperwork from Buchenwald will come to light and name the victim, but thats pretty unlikely.

 
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Re: Buchenwald Lampshade Found
« Reply #121 on: December 16, 2010, 05:35:29 pm »
wouldn't find it at all offensive.  whatever you want to do with your body is your right.  I'm contemplating being cremated and poured into one of those reef balls, such is my love for the ocean.

What's proper is what the person wants, and lacking the person to say what they want, I believe that should fall to the family if they can be found (however unlikely the possibility)

That was mostly tongue-in-cheek, because if you would have been so easily offended you wouldn't have stuck around here this long.  :wink:

Serious point: damn the wishes of the dead or his/her impossible to find family. It's not a matter of what is respectful and what isn't in this scenario (and if we open that can of worms in other cases it gets fucked anyway), that kind of thinking stopped being applicable when someone decided this person would make a good lamp.Shove this down humanity's self-righteous, escapist, little throats.

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Re: Buchenwald Lampshade Found
« Reply #122 on: December 16, 2010, 05:40:53 pm »
And considering that the DNA can't even come up with race... its unlikely that we could definitively tie it back to a specific group that was persecuted by the Nazis. Maybe Jewish, or homosexual or JW or Pacifist or a Von Trapp Family Singer.

Burying it would just be burying a lampshade at this point. Maybe some paperwork from Buchenwald will come to light and name the victim, but thats pretty unlikely.

 

If it was tattooed, we could definitely rule out Jew. It would most likely have been Roma, which it's not, which makes it harder.

I don't know enough about mitochondrial DNA or what it codes for, but I know it accounts for 50% of the individual's genome, and that it's entirely maternal. It's much harder to trace.
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Re: Buchenwald Lampshade Found
« Reply #123 on: December 16, 2010, 05:41:55 pm »
wouldn't find it at all offensive.  whatever you want to do with your body is your right.  I'm contemplating being cremated and poured into one of those reef balls, such is my love for the ocean.

What's proper is what the person wants, and lacking the person to say what they want, I believe that should fall to the family if they can be found (however unlikely the possibility)

That was mostly tongue-in-cheek, because if you would have been so easily offended you wouldn't have stuck around here this long.  :wink:

Serious point: damn the wishes of the dead or his/her impossible to find family. It's not a matter of what is respectful and what isn't in this scenario (and if we open that can of worms in other cases it gets fucked anyway), that kind of thinking stopped being applicable when someone decided this person would make a good lamp.Shove this down humanity's self-righteous, escapist, little throats.

I see your view and I conceed a part of me agrees with it.

especially this part:

Shove this down humanity's self-righteous, escapist, little throats.


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Re: Buchenwald Lampshade Found
« Reply #124 on: December 16, 2010, 06:08:53 pm »
HOLY SHIT WHAT IS WITH ALL THE REASONABLE DISCUSSION LATELY?!?!?!
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Re: Buchenwald Lampshade Found
« Reply #125 on: December 16, 2010, 06:10:43 pm »
HOLY SHIT WHAT IS WITH ALL THE REASONABLE DISCUSSION LATELY?!?!?!
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« Reply #126 on: December 16, 2010, 06:15:14 pm »
HOLY SHIT WHAT IS WITH ALL THE REASONABLE DISCUSSION LATELY?!?!?!
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Re: Buchenwald Lampshade Found
« Reply #127 on: December 16, 2010, 06:19:07 pm »
And considering that the DNA can't even come up with race... its unlikely that we could definitively tie it back to a specific group that was persecuted by the Nazis. Maybe Jewish, or homosexual or JW or Pacifist or a Von Trapp Family Singer.

Burying it would just be burying a lampshade at this point. Maybe some paperwork from Buchenwald will come to light and name the victim, but thats pretty unlikely.

 

If it was tattooed, we could definitely rule out Jew. It would most likely have been Roma, which it's not, which makes it harder.

I don't know enough about mitochondrial DNA or what it codes for, but I know it accounts for 50% of the individual's genome, and that it's entirely maternal. It's much harder to trace.


I don't think it's anywhere near 50%. More like a fraction of a percent.

My understanding is that it is (kind of, sorta, maybe) analogous to the BIOS to nuclear DNA's operating system.

Wikipedia says Mitocondrial DNA consists of only 37 genes.
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Re: Buchenwald Lampshade Found
« Reply #128 on: December 16, 2010, 06:20:19 pm »
Yeah, I knew it wasn't much.
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Re: Buchenwald Lampshade Found
« Reply #129 on: December 16, 2010, 06:21:00 pm »
And considering that the DNA can't even come up with race... its unlikely that we could definitively tie it back to a specific group that was persecuted by the Nazis. Maybe Jewish, or homosexual or JW or Pacifist or a Von Trapp Family Singer.

Burying it would just be burying a lampshade at this point. Maybe some paperwork from Buchenwald will come to light and name the victim, but thats pretty unlikely.

 

If it was tattooed, we could definitely rule out Jew. It would most likely have been Roma, which it's not, which makes it harder.

I don't know enough about mitochondrial DNA or what it codes for, but I know it accounts for 50% of the individual's genome, and that it's entirely maternal. It's much harder to trace.


I don't think it's anywhere near 50%. More like a fraction of a percent.

My understanding is that it is (kind of, sorta, maybe) analogous to the BIOS to nuclear DNA's operating system.

Wikipedia says Mitocondrial DNA consists of only 37 genes.

How many slacks and/or khakis?
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Re: Buchenwald Lampshade Found
« Reply #130 on: December 16, 2010, 06:26:55 pm »
And considering that the DNA can't even come up with race... its unlikely that we could definitively tie it back to a specific group that was persecuted by the Nazis. Maybe Jewish, or homosexual or JW or Pacifist or a Von Trapp Family Singer.

Burying it would just be burying a lampshade at this point. Maybe some paperwork from Buchenwald will come to light and name the victim, but thats pretty unlikely.

 

If it was tattooed, we could definitely rule out Jew. It would most likely have been Roma, which it's not, which makes it harder.

I don't know enough about mitochondrial DNA or what it codes for, but I know it accounts for 50% of the individual's genome, and that it's entirely maternal. It's much harder to trace.


I don't think it's anywhere near 50%. More like a fraction of a percent.

My understanding is that it is (kind of, sorta, maybe) analogous to the BIOS to nuclear DNA's operating system.

Wikipedia says Mitocondrial DNA consists of only 37 genes.

How many slacks and/or khakis?


Last estimate puts it somewhere around 80 cargo shorts.
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Re: Buchenwald Lampshade Found
« Reply #131 on: December 16, 2010, 06:28:40 pm »
[WARNING: EXTREMELY TENUOUSLY REMEMBERED HIGH SCHOOL-LEVEL BIO PRESENT IN THE FOLLOWING POST. PROCEED WITH CAUTION A GRAIN OF SALT.]

Nuclear DNA, as far as I know, is the majority of what we consider to be an individual's genetic code. It's the part that lies roughly in the center of each cell.

Mitochondrial DNA lies within the cellular organelles called mitochondria, separate from the nucleus of the cell. In other words, the DNA for an extremely critical component of basically all animal cells is actually part of that specific organelle, not the rest of the cell. For some reason, mitochondrial DNA is only inherited through the mother, so it's possible to trace back maternal family lines for quite a few generations, because it remains essentially unchanged while the rest of the DNA goes through the food processor that is cellular meiosis.

And that's as far as I'm willing to go without doing some internets research.

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Re: Buchenwald Lampshade Found
« Reply #132 on: December 16, 2010, 06:32:31 pm »
Is because sperms do not has mitocondriums.

Eggs has mitochondriums.
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Re: Buchenwald Lampshade Found
« Reply #133 on: December 16, 2010, 08:22:41 pm »
"people do horrible things to people and we dont put the entire evidence of how depraved humanity can be on display"

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Re: Buchenwald Lampshade Found
« Reply #134 on: December 16, 2010, 08:44:01 pm »
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