Babylon is an attention whore ITT, even for negative attention.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

This is probably the wrong thread to discuss the works of Marquis de Sade then, yes?

I've never found them to have any redeeming value.

I'm not a fan, myself. Culturally interesting but sexually repulsive.

The other problem with De Sade is that he was a piss-poor writer.  I mean, that shit is TERRIBLE.  It's like reading the sexual fantasies of Larry Craig & Jimmy Swaggart's retarded butt-baby.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

HOWEVER, I am not going to judge a person by what arouses them.

I am.

I won't judge you for judging. 

I AM!

[BabylonHoruv]

This is probably the wrong thread to discuss the works of Marquis de Sade then, yes?

I've never found them to have any redeeming value.

I'm not a fan, myself. Culturally interesting but sexually repulsive.

The other problem with De Sade is that he was a piss-poor writer.  I mean, that shit is TERRIBLE.  It's like reading the sexual fantasies of Larry Craig & Jimmy Swaggart's retarded butt-baby.

I dunno if part of that is the translator or not, his work might be better in the original French, but I agree completely on the only English versions I have read.  Really really poorly written.  Why this is the man that was chosen to lend his name to being turned on by other people's pain I have no idea.

I have no idea of Sader-Masoch is any better, I've never had access to any of his work.

[LMNO]

Sacher Masoch is even more dull.


Even more so, I suppose, if you get turned on by snuffslashfic.

In truth, The Story of O kicks both of them in the balls.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

This is probably the wrong thread to discuss the works of Marquis de Sade then, yes?

I've never found them to have any redeeming value.

I'm not a fan, myself. Culturally interesting but sexually repulsive.

The other problem with De Sade is that he was a piss-poor writer.  I mean, that shit is TERRIBLE.  It's like reading the sexual fantasies of Larry Craig & Jimmy Swaggart's retarded butt-baby.

[BabylonHoruv]

Sacher Masoch is even more dull.


Even more so, I suppose, if you get turned on by snuffslashfic.

In truth, The Story of O kicks both of them in the balls.

Yeah, I enjoyed The Story of O a lot as a teenager,  I'd say it was a transformative text for me that allowed me to realize that I wasn't the only person with the sort of desires I had (prior to discovering the internet and finding that not only was I not alone there are a lot of people who do)

For anyone who doesn't see O as snuff, remember how it ends.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

This is probably the wrong thread to discuss the works of Marquis de Sade then, yes?

I've never found them to have any redeeming value.

I'm not a fan, myself. Culturally interesting but sexually repulsive.

The other problem with De Sade is that he was a piss-poor writer.  I mean, that shit is TERRIBLE.  It's like reading the sexual fantasies of Larry Craig & Jimmy Swaggart's retarded butt-baby.

It's not even Buldada good, like Delgotha.  It's like reading stereo instructions, except it's for rape and sodomy.  The villains are by today's standards cheap masturbators, and the protagonists are utterly unsympathetic.  It was "shock fiction", and it really distresses me that the book England had banned until the 80s turned out to be so pathetic.

[LMNO]

Sacher Masoch is even more dull.


Even more so, I suppose, if you get turned on by snuffslashfic.

In truth, The Story of O kicks both of them in the balls.

Yeah, I enjoyed The Story of O a lot as a teenager,  I'd say it was a transformative text for me that allowed me to realize that I wasn't the only person with the sort of desires I had (prior to discovering the internet and finding that not only was I not alone there are a lot of people who do)

For anyone who doesn't see O as snuff, remember how it ends.

It ended with Stephen and Rene abandoning O, and she requested to die rather than lose them.  And that was written as an afterword, not using any sort of descriptions.  Plus, it wasn't written in any sort of erotic manner whatsoever.  Stop trying to justify it.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Stop trying to justify it.

[Bruno]

So, just to put a finer point on this turd...

Babylon, do you fantasize about:

1.) Killing people sexually
B.) Being Killed Sexually
۩.) All of the above
Ѭ.)None of the above

[BabylonHoruv]

So, just to put a finer point on this turd...

Babylon, do you fantasize about:

1.) Killing people sexually
B.) Being Killed Sexually
۩.) All of the above
Ѭ.)None of the above

Mostly one and occasionally (but very rarely) two.

Um, I'm an exhibitionist of the worst order, so I kind of enjoy that you're delving into this, but considering everyone else's reactions I do have to ask, why?

[East Coast Hustle]

WHAT THE CUNTFLAPPING FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? GTFO MY SOCIETY, YOU SICK FUCK.

[hooplala]

what's wrong with stories about people getting murdered in a sexual way?  I mean,yeah, maybe not your thing, but it's not hurting anybody except imaginary people.  I really can't see a problem with doing whatever you like to imaginary people.

It's not technically "wrong" in the same way that pornographic literature with young children as the objects is not technically "wrong".

This.  But its still fucking gross.

[hooplala]

Sacher Masoch is even more dull.


Even more so, I suppose, if you get turned on by snuffslashfic.

In truth, The Story of O kicks both of them in the balls.

It's true, I got Venus in Furs a long time ago, because of the Velvet Underground song, but man that book is fucking boring.

[Bruno]

So, just to put a finer point on this turd...

Babylon, do you fantasize about:

1.) Killing people sexually
B.) Being Killed Sexually
۩.) All of the above
Ѭ.)None of the above

Mostly one and occasionally (but very rarely) two.

Um, I'm an exhibitionist of the worst order, so I kind of enjoy that you're delving into this, but considering everyone else's reactions I do have to ask, why?

Mostly because of everyone else's reaction, and the fact that I'm conflicted as to how I feel about it.

I used to be a B type myself, but it faded to nearly nothing some time in my mid-to-late twenties (starting around age 5), so I have some sympathy/empathy for you.

It occurs to me that unrealistic scenarios (i.e. Sci-fi) are at least somewhat less creepy than realistic ones (i.e. knife-fucking your hot neighbor in the parking lot).

I can think of at least two examples of what I would consider soft-core snuff porn that I doubt anyone here would consider mentally unhealthy; Barbarella, and Lexx. GWAR may also fall into that category.

So... long story short, if you're having fantasies about killing actual people who have occurred in your life, you may have a problem, and should seriously consider seeking professional psychological help. If it involves strictly fictional characters not even remotely based on real people, then that would be significantly less creepy, but still  pretty weird.