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Kosovo's PM implicated in human organ running, drugs trade

Started by Cain, December 22, 2010, 06:39:11 AM

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Cain

Quote from: BabylonHoruv on December 24, 2010, 05:03:35 AM
All of this is fucked up, but that last part is kind of awesome, in it's fucked up way.

People came in to get an organ that had been harvested from someone transplanted into them, and instead their own organs got harvested.  Pretending for a moment that they knew the organs were black market that has  poetic justice quality to it.

Unfortunately they probably had no idea in most cases.

No.

They advertised the clinics as legitimate businesses in foreign countries.

Sellers came to Kosovo thinking they were dealing with legitimate businesses, looking to sell their organs in order to raise cash for whatever reason.

The sellers were then killed, or at the very least not paid, while having their organs taken.

While buyers may have also been targeted, there is no information to say one way or another whether they were.  Usually I would suspect the kind of people who knew who to go to in order to get black market organs, and could pay the price, are the kind of people who make arrangements in the event that they should die in unusual circumstances.

Cain

Quote from: Golden Applesauce on December 24, 2010, 05:14:53 AM
I'd guess many of them did, but really needed whatever organ it was.

The explant victim is already screwed over, and if they survived they sure aren't getting their kidney back.  But my daughter is dying right now and the wait list is to long...

Indeed.  These are exactly the kind of people the Drenica Group would be willing to screw, as if something does go wrong...what are they going to do?

the last yatto

How long could your body be using a failed liver before you just suddenly fall over?
Look, asshole:  Your 'incomprehensible' act, your word-salad, your pinealism...It BORES ME.  I've been incomprehensible for so long, I TEACH IT TO MBA CANDIDATES.  So if you simply MUST talk about your pineal gland or happy children dancing in the wildflowers, go talk to Roger, because he digs that kind of shit

BadBeast

Quote from: Able on December 24, 2010, 08:14:41 PM
How long could your body be using a failed liver before you just suddenly fall over?
A day or two I think. Not very long. Do you wan't to buy one?
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I suspect this tells us more about how governments really operate than it tells us about the black market for human organs.
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the last yatto

Quote from: BadBeast on December 25, 2010, 01:20:06 AM
Quote from: Able on December 24, 2010, 08:14:41 PM
How long could your body be using a failed liver before you just suddenly fall over?
A day or two I think. Not very long. Do you wan't to buy one?
Was thinking more mechanic selling a faultly part
then needing one myself... Besides I rather goto China



Look, asshole:  Your 'incomprehensible' act, your word-salad, your pinealism...It BORES ME.  I've been incomprehensible for so long, I TEACH IT TO MBA CANDIDATES.  So if you simply MUST talk about your pineal gland or happy children dancing in the wildflowers, go talk to Roger, because he digs that kind of shit

BadBeast

Quote from: Nigel on December 25, 2010, 01:47:22 AM
I suspect this tells us more about how governments really operate than it tells us about the black market for human organs.
Yeah, of course. You can't tell me that every Government doesn't have someone at top level who didn't know this shit was going on, or didn't have their own agent or fixer who could arrange quick, no question's asked transplants for cash. Brazil also has a bit of a reputation for this stuff too. But then, Both Brazil, and Kosovo have the required raw materials, of a quality that is marketable. Transient populations of people that no-one will miss, and a Government that has a Lassez faire attitude toward actual Governing. So Kosovo has the right Socio-economic climate for Organ Harvesting. So that will be the service it carries out for other Governments.
Switzerland has the ideal Socio-economic climate for sitting very quietly on huge sums of money for however long,
without asking too many questions. So if someone in Italy, or Finland has a large lump of cash they can't have knocking about in their own Country, because it's stolen, or Taxable, or "sleeping", Switzerland will look after it.
If, for instance your Swiss money was 4 times over-invested in your own Country, now you have to show some buoyancy to the investors, or it will cause a run on stock that will show you up for the cheating,  fraudulent  swindler that you really are. You need to invest what you have, in a blue chip stock, that will guarantee you a short term Tax free return of 3000%. Well, there aren't any International Stock Markets where you can just turn up and get that sort of business. Or is there? Someone must know someone, who knows someone else . . . . . So you look around, and  you find someone who will give you that return. There will be no contracts signed, or plans submitted, no paper trail, everything will be arranged by word of mouth.  And your money would go to somewhere, . . . like Afghanistan. Where it will buy you a shipment of top quality Brown Heroin. Which will yield the kind of return you need to keep your stock nice and buoyant, and your investors happy with your Brokering of their oversold stock. The reason Afghanistan can grow Poppy as their main export, is that the crop keeps them rich enough to carry on business as usual, no matter who the Coalition Forces have nominally set up to govern in Kabul. They just get on with the business in hand. They don't have to leave their Mountain homes, not when the West side of the Mountain is in Turkey, the East side in Afghanistan, the South slopes off to Pakistan, all of whom have vested interests in your product, and have established routes to the lucrative Markets of Western Europe. So you slope off back to Switzerland with your big sacks of cash, and refill your Secret Accounts. But the stress of all this hopping about has taken it's toll. You've been drinking like a complete Motherfucker, and your Liver is just about borked. So you arrange a meet with your Organ Harvesting Ex-Serbian Warlord friend, and arrange a nice quick Liver Transplant, for next Wednesday. They have a 15 year old Gypsy in their Detention Camp / Clinic, who is a match for you. So he gets harvested on the Tuesday night, you get refitted on Wednesday, back to business as usual the following Monday. Everyone is happy. Except, of course the Gypsy. Who will be dead. But who gives a fuck about a dead Gypsy? Especially when no-one gives a fuck about live Gypsys.  This is what I mean by Kosovo's uniquely situated wealth of raw materials. The Gypsys get moved on from every other Country around. Until they get to the Balkans. Where they are rendered down to provide spares for corrupt Western Businessmen and Politicians.  

And all this covertly sanctioned by our Elected Representatives, and Company CEO's. Subsidised  by our Government's Aid programs,  paid for by our Taxes, protected by our Secret Services, kept from us by our bought off and Tame News Agencies, and everything is kept sweet by having no-one to blame, or carry the can when it all goes tits up. But Julian Assange's leaky little  Wiki dikki, is threatening to make it all go tits up at the same time. But everyone has their price, and the Game is very big business. So nothing much is going to change in the near future. Just that we will get to hear about worse and worse abuses of Power and privilige, which will make us feel more impotent in the face of the beast. And so it goes on. . . . .


ETA, Merry fucking Christmas, you Spagganoonys, Lang may yer Breeks, reek!
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Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

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Jenne

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/europe/news/article_1607171.php/EU-launches-anti-human-trafficking-initiative-avoids-Kosovo-row

This is how Europe is just AVOIDING what they know to be their own back alley ghetto, and how they've avoided it for YEARS, DECADES.  Women are kidnapped in alarming numbers and sold into prostitutional slavery in that area of the world, and they are lost to all humanity.  The fact that it's so fucking corrupt that the police and the mob are in it together comes as NO surprise to ANYONE.

That, right THERE is the heart of the problem.  But the avoidance in dealing with it is shameful in the extreme.  It's tantamount to finding out that San Diego college kids who party in TJ are sold into slavery with the nod and wink of the border agents.  Could you imagine the uproar?  But no one gives a flying FUCK about the Balkans, right?

Fucking ridiculous.

Adios


Cain

Uh, because what happens there is, by and large, endorsed by political leaders in America and Europe and if they're willing to let psychos run around and cut peoples organs out and then sell them, just think what else they might allow.

Oh, but it's not happening to you, right, so it must not be important?  Yeah? 

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Cain on December 27, 2010, 08:36:43 PM
Uh, because what happens there is, by and large, endorsed by political leaders in America and Europe and if they're willing to let psychos run around and cut peoples organs out and then sell them, just think what else they might allow.

Oh, but it's not happening to you, right, so it must not be important?  Yeah? 

In Charlie's defense, was there ever a time where they WEREN'T whacking peoples' organs out in the Balkans?
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Adios

Quote from: Cain on December 27, 2010, 08:36:43 PM
Uh, because what happens there is, by and large, endorsed by political leaders in America and Europe and if they're willing to let psychos run around and cut peoples organs out and then sell them, just think what else they might allow.

Oh, but it's not happening to you, right, so it must not be important?  Yeah? 

Or it was sarcasm. Besides, on the serious side Glass House/Stones.

Cain

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2010, 08:37:41 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 27, 2010, 08:36:43 PM
Uh, because what happens there is, by and large, endorsed by political leaders in America and Europe and if they're willing to let psychos run around and cut peoples organs out and then sell them, just think what else they might allow.

Oh, but it's not happening to you, right, so it must not be important?  Yeah? 

In Charlie's defense, was there ever a time where they WEREN'T whacking peoples' organs out in the Balkans?

Under Tito, after the war, there was considerable stability and political-economic progress.

The region also was fairly stable under the Austro-Hungarian empire, although to be fair it was stable in opposition to the monarchy and for Pan-Yugoslavianism.  Which may have occasionally involved throwing grenades at German-sounding people with royal titles.  And caused a World War.  Partially.