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Started by Dalek, December 27, 2010, 08:15:45 AM

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LMNO

If he's a diagnosed schizophrenic, and is not on any therapy or medication, wouldn't he be considered a danger to himself and others?  Wouldn't the state have to step in and offer assistance?

Lies

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 27, 2010, 01:47:10 PM
If he's a diagnosed schizophrenic, and is not on any therapy or medication, wouldn't he be considered a danger to himself and others?  Wouldn't the state have to step in and offer assistance?
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The Johnny

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 27, 2010, 01:47:10 PM
If he's a diagnosed schizophrenic, and is not on any therapy or medication, wouldn't he be considered a danger to himself and others?  Wouldn't the state have to step in and offer assistance?

Isnt he from Bulgaria?
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

Whatever

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2010, 01:43:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Phox on December 27, 2010, 09:59:46 AM
Am I the only one who is going to say kick the fucker out?

No.  But I am, as Dalek puts it, the asshole who ruins PD for the noobs.

Give him the boot.

Yeah, I have to go with this!!!

Or you can find out what options you have locally to errr "put him away" to get some help.

You cannot let yourself feel guilty about the problems your parents have.  They are not your responsibility, you are theirs!!  The fact that your mom has put this off on you has her in just as bad of a light imo as your dad.  At least he has a mental illness to fall back on.

You are 16.  And while that may (in your case) mean you are super mature and extremely responsible, facts are facts.  You are still a minor and as such your parents need to get their shit together. If you do not want to emancipate yourself and there are no other relatives for you to live with, I personally would tell your mom to give your dad two options, leave and get help and you may be able to come back, or just leave.  Maybe suggest your mom get some help with her issues as well.

I'm sorry you're stuck in this situation.  :sad:

Dalek

He's not diagnosed but he has lots of the symptoms and all his other family members are diagnosed schizophrenics - he's never been at a therapist.

Today something happened - my dad started crying again at lunch, after we told him that we are not kicking him out. He told us he's tryed to quit doing drugs(I knew he used to smoke weed, but now I know he also took amphetamines) and that for half a year now he's been clean and that he really wants our help and will do whatever we want to be a part of family. Also he said sorry for the first time in his life, he apologised for all the mistakes he made, he apologised for being an asshole and doing drugs and shit and finally I convinced them to let me handle our finances, as my parents proove on and on that they suck at doing so. All in all it was like some fucking soap opera, but everything went better than expected and I really hope it will stay well. I feel like I've been a good parent to my parents after all.

LMNO

You're fucked.


Sorry to be a bummer, but other than the fact you have been given a responsibility that no 16 year old should have, the household dynamic hasn't changed.

Whatever

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on December 27, 2010, 04:18:01 PM
You're fucked.


Sorry to be a bummer, but other than the fact you have been given a responsibility that no 16 year old should have, the household dynamic hasn't changed.

Unfortunately this!

Addicts always say "I'm sorry" if they think it will get you off their back.  If he's an addict with a mental illness you have double the issues because you don't know where what he is saying is coming from, the addiction or the mental illness.


The Johnny

You are being parentalized and thats not good for you.

Just juggling the bills and day by day expenditures... you are way in over your head.
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

Dalek

Quote from: Joh'Nyx on December 27, 2010, 04:31:12 PM
You are being parentalized and thats not good for you.

Just juggling the bills and day by day expenditures... you are way in over your head.

Hey, I'm good at it, plus I forced them to let me handle them, they both worry about putting too much pressure on me, it's just that I'm sure I can handle it.

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Doses his coffee with something to help calm him down,
Look, asshole:  Your 'incomprehensible' act, your word-salad, your pinealism...It BORES ME.  I've been incomprehensible for so long, I TEACH IT TO MBA CANDIDATES.  So if you simply MUST talk about your pineal gland or happy children dancing in the wildflowers, go talk to Roger, because he digs that kind of shit

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Dalekk on December 27, 2010, 08:15:45 AM
Fuck my nutjob family. Really, there's noone without some mental issues. My mom has anger management problems, while my dad is a schizophrenic, acting like a fucking teenager that I'm supposed to parent. For a few months it's all been getting worse and worse and contact between them has become nothing but yelling. He spends all the family's monney, refuses to find a job, as he sees himself as a great artist and waits for someone to offer him something really BIG(he's been waiting for the past 3 years) and on top of that he blames us and tells us we spend everything for buying stupid shit, which is not the case.

For a week now things have went to an extreme and we asked him to move out, as he never stopped acting like a really obnoxious teenager. So yesterday he told us that on spring he's mooving out. I was really happy, as I'm sick of his shit.

Everything is going fine untill this morning my mom tells me he started crying like a baby(She's never seen him crying for the 17 years she lives with him and neither have I). He told her that if we really want to, he'll move out, but he's 50 and has no place to go and his life's a mess etc. Now the decision is up to me, as I'm sort of the responsible parent to my parents and it's really messed up. I don't know what to do. He's a schizo, so he really thinks we are conspiring to ruin his life and can't possibly suspect that the problem is him. We don't have monney for theraphy and there aren't any really good psychoterapists here. If we let him stay with us, he'll act nice for a month or two and then he'll switch to jackass mode again. Neither of them is happy living with eachother, but my dad's only option if he moves out is to live in a house away from the city, which is awesome to be in in the summer, but throughout the other seasons is total shit.

I have no idea what to do. It sucks to have so many responsabilities since the age of 10 and I feel like shit for making him moove out. On the other hand I'll feel like shit for making my mother suffer, because she really, really hates living with him. Fuck.

Sorry, but as a fake Discordian, I am unable to give you any sound advice.

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Adios

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on December 27, 2010, 09:49:57 PM
Quote from: Dalekk on December 27, 2010, 08:15:45 AM
Fuck my nutjob family. Really, there's noone without some mental issues. My mom has anger management problems, while my dad is a schizophrenic, acting like a fucking teenager that I'm supposed to parent. For a few months it's all been getting worse and worse and contact between them has become nothing but yelling. He spends all the family's monney, refuses to find a job, as he sees himself as a great artist and waits for someone to offer him something really BIG(he's been waiting for the past 3 years) and on top of that he blames us and tells us we spend everything for buying stupid shit, which is not the case.

For a week now things have went to an extreme and we asked him to move out, as he never stopped acting like a really obnoxious teenager. So yesterday he told us that on spring he's mooving out. I was really happy, as I'm sick of his shit.

Everything is going fine untill this morning my mom tells me he started crying like a baby(She's never seen him crying for the 17 years she lives with him and neither have I). He told her that if we really want to, he'll move out, but he's 50 and has no place to go and his life's a mess etc. Now the decision is up to me, as I'm sort of the responsible parent to my parents and it's really messed up. I don't know what to do. He's a schizo, so he really thinks we are conspiring to ruin his life and can't possibly suspect that the problem is him. We don't have monney for theraphy and there aren't any really good psychoterapists here. If we let him stay with us, he'll act nice for a month or two and then he'll switch to jackass mode again. Neither of them is happy living with eachother, but my dad's only option if he moves out is to live in a house away from the city, which is awesome to be in in the summer, but throughout the other seasons is total shit.

I have no idea what to do. It sucks to have so many responsabilities since the age of 10 and I feel like shit for making him moove out. On the other hand I'll feel like shit for making my mother suffer, because she really, really hates living with him. Fuck.

Sorry, but as a fake Discordian, I am unable to give you any sound advice.



Nursing homes. Get your revenge today.

Phox

Quote from: Dalekk on December 27, 2010, 04:15:11 PM
He's not diagnosed but he has lots of the symptoms and all his other family members are diagnosed schizophrenics - he's never been at a therapist.

Today something happened - my dad started crying again at lunch, after we told him that we are not kicking him out. He told us he's tryed to quit doing drugs(I knew he used to smoke weed, but now I know he also took amphetamines) and that for half a year now he's been clean and that he really wants our help and will do whatever we want to be a part of family. Also he said sorry for the first time in his life, he apologised for all the mistakes he made, he apologised for being an asshole and doing drugs and shit and finally I convinced them to let me handle our finances, as my parents proove on and on that they suck at doing so. All in all it was like some fucking soap opera, but everything went better than expected and I really hope it will stay well. I feel like I've been a good parent to my parents after all.

Fuck him. Fuck him with an iron fuckstick. If he's not diagnosed then maybe he's just a fucking asshat. Plus now you have an excuse! You didn't know for sure if he was schizo. Put him out of your misery, man. Things shall get super shitty again, and in short order, because, like LMNO said, nothing's different except you're the family accountant. So, man up and kick the fat bastard out, or deal with the consequences.

Kurt Christ

If you're handling the family finances, what happens when you finish high school and go to college or whatever it is you're doing then? Is there much of a nursing/retirement home system in Bulgaria?
Formerly known as the Space Pope (then I was excommunicated), Father Kurt Christ (I was deemed unfit to raise children, spiritual or otherwise), and Vartox (the speedo was starting to chafe)

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Vartox on December 28, 2010, 01:26:54 AM
If you're handling the family finances, what happens when you finish high school and go to college or whatever it is you're doing then? Is there much of a nursing/retirement home system in Bulgaria?

He won't go.

Betcha.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.