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So Just Exactly What ARE We Doing, Anyway?

Started by The Good Reverend Roger, January 26, 2011, 06:51:03 PM

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The Wizard

I'd say you could probably mix 1 and 5 together, give that they run in a similar vein. I'd also say you could probably drop 7, since I'm the only person who had that one.
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Phox

I'd argue that 1, 5,  and 7, and to a lesser degree 6, are basically the same goal with different means. But if I tried hard enough, I could also argue that they are all the same in the end.

But... honestly, I'd leave them as is, with the possible exception of merging 5 and 7 (depending on what Semaj means by apathy, it probably falls under the broader category of changing cultural climate). Maximizing Freedom, while, it COULD be altering the political/cutural climate is also a matter of working within oneself to over come inhibitions, at least for me it is, so again, I would say they should remain separate. I have no issues with any of the categories, honestly, and unless an OP does, I don't think it should matter.

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You can sign me up for 1, 2, 3, and 4.
5 is a good goal, but seems relatively unfeasible from my perspective. 6 could be fun, but I see it more as a means to accomplishing the first 4 goals than as an end unto itself. For my opinion on 7, see 5.
That being said, I'll do what I can for those last three. They just aren't my main objectives right now.
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The Good Reverend Roger

If we're smashing goals together, then count me out.

That's exactly what Kalera and Liam were warning us about.
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Phox

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 01, 2011, 12:18:53 AM
If we're smashing goals together, then count me out.

That's exactly what Kalera and Liam were warning us about.

Well, there you have it.

Captain Utopia

I wasn't planning to jump back into the discussion this early but.. my biggest concern in constructing the list is that I had made the "winners" too vague and catch-all.  That said, merging is appropriate if someone put down something which upon reflection is legitimately covered by an existing category, and they want to change.

For example:

Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on February 28, 2011, 10:01:56 PM
I'd also say you could probably drop 7, since I'm the only person who had that one.

I think this would be a terrible reason to drop a category.


I'm not sure where this idea of merging/pruning categories came from:

Quote from: Captain Utopia on February 28, 2011, 04:52:32 AM
I'm looking for suggestions about any additional categories I missed, or any obvious way to split up/rearrange the existing ones.


My goal here is to represent everybody as best as possible, and then use that as a basis to devise projects which may have a broad appeal.  As it stands, I think the list is already somewhat useful in that regard - but a finer-grained list of categories would be more useful.

Open question - is there any way that #2 "Reality tunnel escape/intellectual improvement/think for yourself" and #4 "Have Fun" (the two largest groups) could be meaningfully split up?

The Wizard

QuoteI think this would be a terrible reason to drop a category.

Okay, so we're not getting rid of categories, but expanding them where need be? Fair enough then, misunderstood what the goal was at this stage.
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Phox

Quote from: Doktor Phox on February 28, 2011, 11:15:44 PM
I have no issues with any of the categories, honestly, and unless an OP does, I don't think it should matter.
Just sayin'.

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Quote from: Dr. James Semaj on March 01, 2011, 12:44:55 AM
QuoteI think this would be a terrible reason to drop a category.

Okay, so we're not getting rid of categories, but expanding them where need be? Fair enough then, misunderstood what the goal was at this stage.

Likewise. I'll try to expand upon the political climate category so that it's distinct enough from maximizing freedom.
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Shub-Crackerath

If i can play too, I'd like to be put down for a 2, a 3 and a 4.
If i may also be so bold as to suggest an 8; socialising/networking

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Shub-Crackerath on March 02, 2011, 01:50:18 AM
If i may also be so bold as to suggest an 8; socialising/networking

We keep that on a sub-board.

http://facebook.com
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Jenne


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Jenne

Quote from: Sister Fracture on March 02, 2011, 03:14:49 PM
Quote from: Jenne on March 02, 2011, 02:46:27 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 02, 2011, 02:10:46 PM
Quote from: Shub-Crackerath on March 02, 2011, 01:50:18 AM
If i may also be so bold as to suggest an 8; socialising/networking

We keep that on a sub-board.

http://facebook.com

I humbly and respectfully disagree.

There's also www.spagbook.com

I don't go there for those things.  AND I come here for different things.  Also, I don't really have "goals" for this place and my being here.  *shrug*

But I wouldn't want to see my interactions with people on a social level limited to facefuck or spagfuck, either.  *shrug again*

If PD.com is to become a place of ALL GOALS ALL THE TIME!!! then I probably will post less than I do now.  I don't have the bandwidth, since IRL is so busy and hectic, to contribute more than that.

...but I explained that already when I originally responded.  I come here for reading up on all sorts of things, and sharing others.  But I do cheer on the work that others take up for whatever cause or reason.

Captain Utopia

Quote from: Jenne on March 02, 2011, 03:30:18 PM
If PD.com is to become a place of ALL GOALS ALL THE TIME!!!

No-one wants that, we're just talking about making it easier for people who want to get together to do stuff.

First step is figuring out what it is that people might want to work on together.