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Are we discovering more than we can process?

Started by Adios, February 03, 2011, 03:55:34 PM

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LMNO

History has shown that new technologies can be incorporated fairly easy, once its use and market have been established.

But technology at a user level is vastly removed from understanding how it works.  Most people still can't explain how a CD player really works, and that technology is already dying.


AFK

Quote from: LMNO, PhD on February 03, 2011, 04:13:15 PM
Another thought:  One of the principles of the BIP is that REALITY is whirling around us all the time, and we're unable to process most of it, for various reasons.

What a lot of these new technologies are doing are merely showing us the stuff we're unable to process on our own.

For the most part, the stuff we're discovering has no impact on our day-to-day lives, other than from a philisophical outlook.  I mean, what impact does an infinite universe have on tonight's dinner?

Not much until someone discovers Space Chickens. 
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Jenne

Ha.  Alphapance, you just reminded me of the ubiquitous "flashing 12:00" on the VCR.  That became so ingrained as an "unknowable feature" (changing the time), that it was a cliche.

But...here's the thing--sometimes the more intricate pieces of knowledge about a technology aren't necessary to know in order to utilize it effectively.

After all, then you wouldn't really need a TV or washer and dryer repair man if you knew how it worked.

Adios

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 03, 2011, 04:28:24 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on February 03, 2011, 04:13:15 PM
Another thought:  One of the principles of the BIP is that REALITY is whirling around us all the time, and we're unable to process most of it, for various reasons.

What a lot of these new technologies are doing are merely showing us the stuff we're unable to process on our own.

For the most part, the stuff we're discovering has no impact on our day-to-day lives, other than from a philisophical outlook.  I mean, what impact does an infinite universe have on tonight's dinner?

Not much until someone discovers Space Chickens. 

:argh!:

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Quote from: LMNO, PhD on February 03, 2011, 04:26:37 PM
History has shown that new technologies can be incorporated fairly easy, once its use and market have been established.

But technology at a user level is vastly removed from understanding how it works.  Most people still can't explain how a CD player really works, and that technology is already dying.



Seems to me like we've redefined "process" - Are we discovering more than we can "assimilate and make use of"?

Probably not!

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Quote from: LMNO, PhD on February 03, 2011, 04:26:37 PM
History has shown that new technologies can be incorporated fairly easy, once its use and market have been established.

But technology at a user level is vastly removed from understanding how it works.  Most people still can't explain how a CD player really works, and that technology is already dying.



I sure can't.

Jenne

I do think we ARE in an age of information/technology where the speed of discovery and dissemination is faster than it ever has been.  Some have called it a "revolution," like the Industrial Revolution, etc.  I think we have had a lessening of the FEAR of new technology (again, watching a 3rd worlder approach things they've never seen only ever heard of is a fascinating way to learn about all this), and this is definitely brought about because of how quickly everything has been changing and how quickly it becomes consumable and usable by the general populace.

Adios

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 03, 2011, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on February 03, 2011, 04:26:37 PM
History has shown that new technologies can be incorporated fairly easy, once its use and market have been established.

But technology at a user level is vastly removed from understanding how it works.  Most people still can't explain how a CD player really works, and that technology is already dying.



Seems to me like we've redefined "process" - Are we discovering more than we can "assimilate and make use of"?

Probably not!

You are correct, the terms have different meanings. Eggheads process, consumers drive the assimilation.

Richter

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 03, 2011, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on February 03, 2011, 04:26:37 PM
History has shown that new technologies can be incorporated fairly easy, once its use and market have been established.

But technology at a user level is vastly removed from understanding how it works.  Most people still can't explain how a CD player really works, and that technology is already dying.



Seems to me like we've redefined "process" - Are we discovering more than we can "assimilate and make use of"?

Probably not!

This.  We, by necessity need to screen it out from all the other stuff that isn't relevant to us
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Quote from: Richter on February 03, 2011, 04:39:06 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 03, 2011, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on February 03, 2011, 04:26:37 PM
History has shown that new technologies can be incorporated fairly easy, once its use and market have been established.

But technology at a user level is vastly removed from understanding how it works.  Most people still can't explain how a CD player really works, and that technology is already dying.



Seems to me like we've redefined "process" - Are we discovering more than we can "assimilate and make use of"?

Probably not!

This.  We, by necessity need to screen it out from all the other stuff that isn't relevant to us

LMNO pointed out earlier that the BIP resonates here and you point the same thing. There really is no escape from the BIP, is there?

Jenne

...but at this point in time, we are not limited by anything other than choice in a lot of sectors in our population.  The latest technological goods are not restricted by price or access any longer.  This was not the case not too long ago in our history.  And those producing said consumer technology know this and rely upon it.  The newer devices are even made more attractive by their accessibility.

Even when they're mostly in "beta" and haven't had all the bugs worked out yet so that their function is not quite optimal yet.  I'm thinking of the first Blue Ray DVD players and the first smartphones.

LMNO

Quote from: Charley Brown on February 03, 2011, 04:40:56 PM
Quote from: Richter on February 03, 2011, 04:39:06 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 03, 2011, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on February 03, 2011, 04:26:37 PM
History has shown that new technologies can be incorporated fairly easy, once its use and market have been established.

But technology at a user level is vastly removed from understanding how it works.  Most people still can't explain how a CD player really works, and that technology is already dying.



Seems to me like we've redefined "process" - Are we discovering more than we can "assimilate and make use of"?

Probably not!

This.  We, by necessity need to screen it out from all the other stuff that isn't relevant to us

LMNO pointed out earlier that the BIP resonates here and you point the same thing. There really is no escape from the BIP, is there?



AFK

Quote from: Charley Brown on February 03, 2011, 04:40:56 PM
Quote from: Richter on February 03, 2011, 04:39:06 PM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on February 03, 2011, 04:32:12 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on February 03, 2011, 04:26:37 PM
History has shown that new technologies can be incorporated fairly easy, once its use and market have been established.

But technology at a user level is vastly removed from understanding how it works.  Most people still can't explain how a CD player really works, and that technology is already dying.



Seems to me like we've redefined "process" - Are we discovering more than we can "assimilate and make use of"?

Probably not!

This.  We, by necessity need to screen it out from all the other stuff that isn't relevant to us

LMNO pointed out earlier that the BIP resonates here and you point the same thing. There really is no escape from the BIP, is there?

Never.  You get to discover and explore new cells, but you never actually see the prison walls. 
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Quote from: Charley Brown on February 03, 2011, 03:55:34 PM
In light of recent discoveries I have been thinking about this.

Thoughts?

This is the actual meaning of "the singularity" that the hippies keep jabbering about.

Instant obsolescence of knowledge.
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Quote from: Jenne on February 03, 2011, 04:35:12 PM
I do think we ARE in an age of information/technology where the speed of discovery and dissemination is faster than it ever has been.  Some have called it a "revolution," like the Industrial Revolution, etc.  I think we have had a lessening of the FEAR of new technology (again, watching a 3rd worlder approach things they've never seen only ever heard of is a fascinating way to learn about all this), and this is definitely brought about because of how quickly everything has been changing and how quickly it becomes consumable and usable by the general populace.

Hmm, I think maybe there is an increasing gap within our human society when it comes to technology, discovery, and advancement.  

But, because of the bias of hindsight, I'm not convinced that the stuff we are discovering today is that much more mindblowing than the stuff that was being discovered a thousand years ago or more.

I mean, I that's probably impossible to measure unless we discover a way to re-animate the people who lived back in those times.  
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